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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Nobody actually believes a human being begins at the moment of conception.

    The main reason so many righwing dudes are obsessed with female reproductive choice, is because female sexuality bothers them.

    Either because they are INCELs, or because they are control freaks.
    If the law forces you to give birth, will the law pay for the child's expense including college?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Uh huh. Nothing to do with my question. But....ok.
    Your question was "If it is not about religion it is hard to understand why they care."

    I gave you the reason. For most I think their religious reasons are not really separate from their moral reasons. If they want to protect life they believe that is consistent with their religion.

    Most religions are against murder (of adults) but people also oppose murder for moral reasons even if they are not religious. What difference does it make if it is religion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I never got it.

    If it is not about religion it is hard to understand why they care.
    People don't take kindly to child slaughter, dude...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Never occurred to me it is murder. It is not.
    It is murdering a living human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Your question was "If it is not about religion it is hard to understand why they care."

    I gave you the reason. For most I think their religious reasons are not really separate from their moral reasons. If they want to protect life they believe that is consistent with their religion.

    Most religions are against murder (of adults) but people also oppose murder for moral reasons even if they are not religious. What difference does it make if it is religion?
    So, irrationality of religion. Got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    El, eloh or elohim.
    #1.12 Hebrew אֱלֹהִים Htr. ’elōhîm, English Elohim

    Elohim is generally considered to be the plural of Eloah. Occasionally it is translated "the judges" (Exodus 21:6; 22:8-9), quite often "the gods" when referring to false gods (Genesis 31:30; Exodus 12:12; 18:11 etc.), but mostly translated "God", and used with singular verbs when referring to the one true God. This is commonly regarded as a plural of majesty, which is quite a common feature of the Hebrew language. It is used of Jesus in this plural form where it is translated, "O God" (Psalm 45:6), and where it is clearly being addressed to "the Son" (Hebrews 1:8). Therefore it does not prove a plurality of persons in the Godhead, as some have suggested.#1.13 Hebrew אֵל, Htr. ’ēl, English El

    El is an alternative term for God; occasionally translated "the mighty" (Psalm 82:1), "god" (Deuteronomy 32:12; Psalm 44:20; Malachi 2:11 etc.), "goodly" (Psalm 80:10), "idols" (Isaiah 57:5), "strong" (Ezekiel 32:21), but is mostly translated "God", referring to the one true God. It is so used in the compound names which follow.#2.1 THE COMPOUND NAMES USING "EL"

    #2.11 Hebrew אֵל עֶלְיוֹן Htr. ’ēl ‛elyôn, English El Elyon

    The name ’ēl ‛elyôn literally means "God supreme, or God most high", and is translated "the most high God" (Genesis 14:18-22; Psalm 78:35). This name was fulfilled by Jesus in the following scriptures:
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    yes.
    No. Now states cannot prohibit abortion before 24 weeks. They can prohibit abortion after 24 weeks except when the mother's life is in danger. States can have their own laws after 24 weeks and different regulations between 3-6 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    No. Now states cannot prohibit abortion before 24 weeks. They can prohibit abortion after 24 weeks except when the mother's life is in danger. States can have their own laws after 24 weeks and different regulations between 3-6 months.
    don't really care

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    #1.12 Hebrew אֱלֹהִים Htr. ’elōhîm, English Elohim

    [FONT="]Elohim is generally considered to be the plural of Eloah. Occasionally it is translated "the judges" (Exodus 21:6; 22:8-9), quite often "the gods" when referring to false gods (Genesis 31:30; Exodus 12:12; 18:11 etc.), but mostly translated "God", and used with singular verbs when referring to the one true God. This is commonly regarded as a plural of majesty, which is quite a common feature of the Hebrew language. It is used of Jesus in this plural form where it is translated, "O God" (Psalm 45:6), and where it is clearly being addressed to "the Son" (Hebrews 1:8). Therefore it does not prove a plurality of persons in the Godhead, as some have suggested.[/FONT]#1.13 Hebrew אֵל, Htr. ’ēl, English El

    [FONT="]El is an alternative term for God; occasionally translated "the mighty" (Psalm 82:1), "god" (Deuteronomy 32:12; Psalm 44:20; Malachi 2:11 etc.), "goodly" (Psalm 80:10), "idols" (Isaiah 57:5), "strong" (Ezekiel 32:21), but is mostly translated "God", referring to the one true God. It is so used in the compound names which follow.[/FONT]#2.1 THE COMPOUND NAMES USING "EL"

    #2.11 Hebrew אֵל עֶלְיוֹן Htr. ’ēl ‛elyôn, English El Elyon

    [FONT="]The name ’ēl ‛elyôn literally means "God supreme, or God most high", and is translated "the most high God" (Genesis 14:18-22; Psalm 78:35). This name was fulfilled by Jesus in the following scriptures:[/FONT]
    You are proving my point. Thank you.

    In Genesis 1:1, the term is elohim. That means that gods created the heaven and the Earth.

    The Jews do not believe in Jesus so that goes the theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    Right wingers are so twisted and demented,
    Projection.

    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    I don't think will ever get it and they cannot claim religion as a means of supporting their deranged stance on abortion at being an unGodly insurgency that wreaks of hypocrisy and moral atrocities.
    Sure they can, but they don't have to.

    Quote Originally Posted by gemini104104 View Post
    Also, at being against abortions, repukes in their further hypocrisy are against services that supports women having children they cannot afford to support as a result of rape and incest to which repukes are a deplorable cause of rape and incest too.
    Try to stop foaming at the mouth for a second so that you can form a coherent thought for a change...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    don't really care
    of course not. those babies are messy and inconvenient. of course they can be murdered. right ?

    remember murder in hebrew is the taking of innocent life.
    what is more innocent than a baby ?

    being messy and inconvenient is not ceasing to be innocent.

    its murder most foul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    of course not. those babies are messy and inconvenient. of course they can be murdered. right ?

    remember murder in hebrew is the taking of innocent life.
    what is more innocent than a baby ?

    being messy and inconvenient is not ceasing to be innocent.

    its murder most foul.
    Not murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    So women don't have to give birth everytime they're pregnant.
    You do know that women don't have to get pregnant, right??

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    You are proving my point. Thank you.

    In Genesis 1:1, the term is elohim. That means that gods created the heaven and the Earth.

    The Jews do not believe in Jesus so that goes the theory.
    you obviously didnt take time to read the translations. I'll act surprised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    you obviously didnt take time to read the translations. I'll act surprised.
    What translation? The word Elohim is literally in Genesis 1:1. Just take a look. Check my post #103.

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