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    Interesting re that Bangladesh study claiming that masks work, which I instantly found fishy:

    Researchers shoot holes in study touted for confirming 'masks work' in curbing COVID
    https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...covid-based-20
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    wrong. vaccine doesn't prevent transmission.
    Of course, it does. If you do not have it, you cannot spread it. I suppose it is remotely possible that a bug infested right wing anti vaxxer could get his bugs on a vaccinated person's body. But that is not what is causing the Trump virus to linger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    My rites are shooting anyone who threatens my family and friends small time.
    You can’t even spell “rights”, much less know what they are.
    “The Communist party must control the guns.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Of course, it does. If you do not have it, you cannot spread it. I suppose it is remotely possible that a bug infested right wing anti vaxxer could get his bugs on a vaccinated person's body. But that is not what is causing the Trump virus to linger.
    Wrong. A vaccine prevents INFECTION, not transmission. The guy who developed these types of vaccines has said that vaxxed people can carry enormous viral loads that they are constantly exhaling. The virus is not “killed” by the vaccine, it merely finds a new host (and mutates).

    You really want to end this “pandemic”? Everyone who is vaccinated should lockdown immediately. Let all the unjabbed go about their lives. Some with the biden variant(you might call it Delta)will die, most will recover. With the appearance of the 2nd biden variant(aka omicron), the vaccines are apparently not very effective, but the symptoms are very mild.

    According to SCIENCE, this might be good news, as this is kind of a natural occurrence in the life span of a virus. As targets for infection die off or develop natural immunity, the virus will mutate to a less lethal variant to keep it’s dwindling supply of host’s alive. How do you think we got out of the 1918 pandemic? We didn’t have vaccines for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    You can’t even spell “rights”, much less know what they are.
    I'm also real bad at conjugating verbs. But the thing that counts is at least I know what I'm talking about not like you q-anon crackpots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    Wrong. A vaccine prevents INFECTION, not transmission. The guy who developed these types of vaccines has said that vaxxed people can carry enormous viral loads that they are constantly exhaling. The virus is not “killed” by the vaccine, it merely finds a new host (and mutates).

    You really want to end this “pandemic”? Everyone who is vaccinated should lockdown immediately. Let all the unjabbed go about their lives. Some with the biden variant(you might call it Delta)will die, most will recover. With the appearance of the 2nd biden variant(aka omicron), the vaccines are apparently not very effective, but the symptoms are very mild.

    According to SCIENCE, this might be good news, as this is kind of a natural occurrence in the life span of a virus. As targets for infection die off or develop natural immunity, the virus will mutate to a less lethal variant to keep it’s dwindling supply of host’s alive. How do you think we got out of the 1918 pandemic? We didn’t have vaccines for it.
    What a pile of shit Q-anon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    Wrong. A vaccine prevents INFECTION, not transmission. The guy who developed these types of vaccines has said that vaxxed people can carry enormous viral loads that they are constantly exhaling. The virus is not “killed” by the vaccine, it merely finds a new host (and mutates).

    You really want to end this “pandemic”? Everyone who is vaccinated should lockdown immediately. Let all the unjabbed go about their lives. Some with the biden variant(you might call it Delta)will die, most will recover. With the appearance of the 2nd biden variant(aka omicron), the vaccines are apparently not very effective, but the symptoms are very mild.

    According to SCIENCE, this might be good news, as this is kind of a natural occurrence in the life span of a virus. As targets for infection die off or develop natural immunity, the virus will mutate to a less lethal variant to keep it’s dwindling supply of host’s alive. How do you think we got out of the 1918 pandemic? We didn’t have vaccines for it.
    You are a idiot"A large study, not yet peer-reviewed, led by a team at Oxford University and looking specifically at the Delta variant has shown that both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines do indeed reduce transmission of the disease. The study looked at almost 150,000 contacts who were traced from nearly 100,000 initial cases of COVID. The initial COVID-positive cases contained a mix of vaccinated and unvaccinated people and the aim was not only to see which groups were most likely to pass on the virus, but also which of the Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccines were most effective in reducing transmission." Q-anon bullshit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    We would never DENY you the freedom- TO GO STRAIGHT TO HELL!

    The only reason why we encourage you to get the vaccine is to help prevent you from trying to take others with you on your way out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    Not surprising at all , when you get the second shot it starts out at around 94% effective, in the 6 month period after the second shot that they are referring to, the protection goes down to I believe around 70% or less. If he got the booster a short time before he got the disease then it isn't effective as it will be in 7-10 days. This new strain may have completely different effective percentages for the existing Vaccine. If they don't get this under control by forcing all the idiots to get the shot , the mutations will go on for ever and the effectiveness of the vaccine will go down with every new configuration. Give you some reference about effectiveness , a normal flue shot starts out at around 35% effective.
    Paradox V. Argument from randU fallacies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    laws are made to protect the public from general harm but mostly from harm from others. That's what a law is. It is time for a law to protect the public from the ass holes who think their rite's (Goofball Idea to start with ) then the lives of my family and friends . These no vaccine people are scum, 95% being right wing scum. This is all political given to the mentally incompetents in the world with their hatred of science ,reason and the left. These people were found by Trump under rocks where society had put them to keep them away from our children , this was a group of low level humans that were blackballed by society and in general terms a laughing stock of the nation , but boy did their hate get bolstered by the hate speech of Trump. They always have been there in the gutter and it took a piece of shit like trump to pull them out with the idea that their sickness and hate could be used to drive this country. Put them back under the rocks where they deserve to be and where they belong.
    Unconstitutional. Paradox V. Denial of science. TDS. Insult fallacies. Hallucinations. Hate speech. No argument presented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    The act of interpreting what the constitution says is exactly that. It is their job description.
    It is not. The Supreme Court has no authority to interpret or change the Constitution. See Article III.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Of course, it does. If you do not have it, you cannot spread it. I suppose it is remotely possible that a bug infested right wing anti vaxxer could get his bugs on a vaccinated person's body. But that is not what is causing the Trump virus to linger.
    Trump did not create nor can control any virus.
    Paradox V.
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    Ruh roh. Crackpot is on a break from his usual coma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    Wrong. A vaccine prevents INFECTION, not transmission.
    A vaccine does NOT prevent infection. No vaccine does. That's not what a vaccine is for.
    Vaccines teach your body how to handle the infection when it does occur.
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    The guy who developed these types of vaccines has said that vaxxed people can carry enormous viral loads that they are constantly exhaling.
    So? Covid19 is an airborne virus. It's already in the air everywhere, and on every surface. Deal with it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    The virus is not “killed” by the vaccine, it merely finds a new host (and mutates).
    Viruses can't be killed. They are not alive. Vaccines do not kill any virus. Your body's immune system kills a virus. Vaccines only help it do it's job by teaching it about a specific virus or family of viruses.
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    You really want to end this “pandemic”? Everyone who is vaccinated should lockdown immediately. Let all the unjabbed go about their lives. Some with the biden variant(you might call it Delta)will die, most will recover. With the appearance of the 2nd biden variant(aka omicron), the vaccines are apparently not very effective, but the symptoms are very mild.
    There is no such thing as a variant of a variant. The whole scare concerning Delta and Omicron 'variants' is just fear mongering by Democrats and other liberals.
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    According to SCIENCE,
    No science here...move along...move along...
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    this might be good news, as this is kind of a natural occurrence in the life span of a virus.
    Viruses have no life span. They are not alive.
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    As targets for infection die off or develop natural immunity, the virus will mutate to a less lethal variant to keep it’s dwindling supply of host’s alive.
    A virus cannot mutate by itself. It is not alive.
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    How do you think we got out of the 1918 pandemic? We didn’t have vaccines for it.
    Catching a virus and recovering is better than any vaccine. Your immune system taught itself out to fight the virus of instead of a vaccine helping the immune system learn about a virus.
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