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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Alaska = taxes oil and mineral mining companies, returns the money to the people. Socialism?
    Sounds*like Communism to me Owl.

    I find it odd how Americans love Saudi ARAMCO, the State Owned Enterprise that helps provide Free Health Care to Saudi Citizens, and how Americans complain about other countries when they do the same thing.

    "Health services in Saudi Arabia
    Overview
    Healthcare in Saudi Arabia currently is provided free of charge to all Saudi citizens and expatriates working in the public sector, primarily through the Ministry of Health and augmented by other governmental health facilities. The government requires that expatriates working in the private sectors have some level of healthcare coverage paid by their employers. Healthcare has been seen as a “right”. Healthcare in Saudi Arabia has been funded primarily by public (75%) or out-of-pocket expenditures (about 25%). "
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6074349/


    I'm pretty sure most Americans feel all warm and fuzzy as they fill up their SUVs and think 'I'm helping Saudis get Free Health Care'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Sounds*like Communism to me Owl.

    I find it odd how Americans love Saudi ARAMCO, the State Owned Enterprise that helps provide Free Health Care to Saudi Citizens, and how Americans complain about other countries when they do the same thing.

    "Health services in Saudi Arabia
    Overview
    Healthcare in Saudi Arabia currently is provided free of charge to all Saudi citizens and expatriates working in the public sector, primarily through the Ministry of Health and augmented by other governmental health facilities. The government requires that expatriates working in the private sectors have some level of healthcare coverage paid by their employers. Healthcare has been seen as a “right”. Healthcare in Saudi Arabia has been funded primarily by public (75%) or out-of-pocket expenditures (about 25%). "
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6074349/


    I'm pretty sure most Americans feel all warm and fuzzy as they fill up their SUVs and think 'I'm helping Saudis get Free Health Care'.
    Good point.

    I wonder how many of our forced-birther friends are ardent supporters of Israel? You know, the country that *also* provides its citizens with free national health care PLUS pays for abortions "on demand" (as they call it over here) -- a lot of which WE are paying for with our billions and billions of aid to that country?
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    https://ge.usembassy.gov/how-maduro-...ide-venezuela/

    Ah! Thank you! I couldn't remember that shithead's name to save my life. You see, with energy independence President Trump pretty much made that asshole irrelevant to Americans, except maybe to serve as an example of how fucked up socialism is. Or maybe you were trying to extoll the virtues of "democracy"? Yeah, sorry but socialist dictatorships are easy when the "electorate" is scared and uneducated. Very surprised he only took 20 of 23 governorships with his mob rule. Fucking rank amateur if you ask me.
    ' Socialist dictatorship ' is an oxymoron. You know what an oxymoron is, doncha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Fraud ? Sound familiar ?

    Why not just leave them alone and let them sell their oil to whoever they like ?
    They are socialists- you are capitalists. War and assassinations are not going to turn them into obedient consumers.



    Troll gate open. See how their head-muscles function.
    YEAH..I'M SURE THE VENEZUELAN ELECTIONS WERE LEGIT... JUST LIKE CUBA's AND RED CHINA's....AND LOOK AT THE JPP LEFT..LINING UP TO SUCK DICTATOR COCK....LIKE LEFTISTS ALWAYS DO....


    WHAT NOW.....POOR VENEZUELANS....
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Good point.

    I wonder how many of our forced-birther friends are ardent supporters of Israel? You know, the country that *also* provides its citizens with free national health care PLUS pays for abortions "on demand" (as they call it over here) -- a lot of which WE are paying for with our billions and billions of aid to that country?
    Mmmmm ... my guess, keep the Rubes in the Dark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Mmmmm ... my guess, keep the Rubes in the Dark.
    "Hobby Lobby is wonderful because they're so Christian and won't pay for abortions [b.c.] for their employees!" (Never mind that they stole priceless artifacts from the Mid East that they had to return.)

    "Israel is wonderful because they are the place where Jesus was born!" (Never mind that Israeli women have free access to abortion and other reproductive health care.)

    "Russia is our best friend!" (Because the #MaliciousMango says so.)

    Etc.
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    They blame Biden for the global inflation taking place currently, and demand that he "fix it." How can he do that? He *could* institute wage and price controls, which has been done in the past. But can you just *imagine* the screaming about that if he did? They don't want socialism/fascism, until they do.
    He *could* institute wage and price controls,
    like Nixon did
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    He *could* institute wage and price controls,
    like Nixon did
    Yep. And Nixon was an (R), so that made it okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    ' Socialist dictatorship ' is an oxymoron. You know what an oxymoron is, doncha.
    Yeah, I know what an oxymoron is. I also know what a socialist dictatorship is. You're saying hitler and stalin weren't socialist dictators?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    "Hobby Lobby is wonderful because they're so Christian and won't pay for abortions [b.c.] for their employees!" (Never mind that they stole priceless artifacts from the Mid East that they had to return.)

    "Israel is wonderful because they are the place where Jesus was born!" (Never mind that Israeli women have free access to abortion and other reproductive health care.)

    "Russia is our best friend!" (Because the #MaliciousMango says so.)

    Etc.

    Please. Don't say that. The Rubes might hear you and become depressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes View Post
    Yeah, I know what an oxymoron is. I also know what a socialist dictatorship is. You're saying hitler and stalin weren't socialist dictators?
    Neither were socialists. Trump calls himself a Christian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Fraud ? Sound familiar ?

    Why not just leave them alone and let them sell their oil to whoever they like ?
    They are socialists- you are capitalists. War and assassinations are not going to turn them into obedient consumers.



    Troll gate open. See how their head-muscles function.
    There is a pandemic going on. Why not pull together until our economies are on more solid footing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    There is a pandemic going on. Why not pull together until our economies are on more solid footing.
    Sure- but not the ' economy ' as we've known it. There's also climatic disaster looming.

    Hope lies in the United Nations. Get organized.
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    WHAT NOW???? MORE OF THE SAME:




    HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH.

    Venezuela


    Events of 2020



    Venezuela is facing a severe humanitarian emergency, with millions unable to access basic healthcare and adequate nutrition. Limited access to safe water in homes and healthcare centers has contributed to the spread of Covid-19.

    In September, a fact-finding mission appointed by the United Nations Human Rights Council (HRC) found high-level authorities responsible for atrocities that they believed amounted to crimes against humanity. The government of Nicolás Maduro and its security forces are responsible for extrajudicial executions and short-term forced disappearances and have jailed opponents, prosecuted civilians in military courts, tortured detainees, and cracked down on protesters. They used a state of emergency implemented in response to Covid-19 as an excuse to punish dissent and intensify their control over the population.


    Venezuela has been at a political impasse since Juan Guaidó, the National Assembly president, claimed he was taking power as interim president of Venezuela in January 2019. Maduro continued to control all institutions except for the legislative branch. In July, ahead of parliamentary elections scheduled for December 2020, the Supreme Court ordered the takeover of three leading political opposition parties by Maduro government supporters, and appointed government supporters to head the National Electoral Council (CNE). Maduro supporters won two-thirds of seats to the National Assembly in elections held on December 6, which were boycotted by the majority of opposition parties and in which less than one third of registered voters participated. Many governments from the region and Europe said the elections had not met minimum guarantees to be considered free and fair.

    The exodus of Venezuelans fleeing repression and shortages of food, medicine, and medical supplies represents the largest migration crisis in recent Latin American history. Difficulty accessing legal status in other countries and economic hardship as a result of measures to curb the spread of Covid-19 have led approximately 130,000 to return since March 2020. Returnees are subject to abuse upon arrival.


    Persistent concerns include brutal policing practices, poor prison conditions, impunity for human rights violations, lack of judicial independence, and harassment of human rights defenders and independent media.






    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/202...endent%20media.



    YEAH..SOUNDS GREAT!! I CAN SEE WHY THE JPP LEFT ARE SO ENAMORED OF VENEZUELA....THEY ARE TRYING TO PULL THE SAME SHIT HERE...

    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    The most vocal can't even define Socialism or Communism. Come to think of it- they can't define Capitalism either.


    Haw, haw, haw, maw....................................haw.
    It does not matter. No form of government exists as theorized. We do not have free enterprise, We do not have open capitalism. We are not a democracy as such. Try and define what we have if you want to, but that does not change anything.
    Rightys claim Sweden and other countries have socialism. They do not. They have free enterprise with people going to jobs and school like we do here. The difference is they put more of their GNP into support for people, like universal healthcare and nearly free school. That is what we should debate without labeling. Do we want the wealth to continue going to the top 1 percent, unfettered and making them more powerful?
    That is what the Republican party wants and has been fighting for generations to achieve. They have been the organ of the wealthy for many years.

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