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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    already have several 3 year sentences. And the investigation by the House is still at the beginning.
    For trespass, property destruction, and other essentially civil crimes... Nobody's been convicted of insurrection (18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection), treason (18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason) or the like. Not one person. A few have gotten convicted of assaulting a federal officer (police officer) as well, but none for insurrection or treason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    For trespass, property destruction, and other essentially civil crimes... Nobody's been convicted of insurrection (18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection), treason (18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason) or the like. Not one person. A few have gotten convicted of assaulting a federal officer (police officer) as well, but none for insurrection or treason.
    Wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Wrong.
    Okay, list the names those charged with insurrection or treason as part of the Jan 6 riot to date. Here, I provided the DOJ link to current cases. Name them.

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Okay, list the names those charged with insurrection or treason as part of the Jan 6 riot to date. Here, I provided the DOJ link to current cases. Name them.

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases
    never said they were charged with treason

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    never said they were charged with treason
    Okay. List the ones charged with "insurrection."

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Okay. List the ones charged with "insurrection."
    Never said that either. This the best you can do?!

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    the charges are glorified trespassing charges like "parading".
    Im not sure if there was more then 1 assault a cop - point being it was a lot noise with little damage

    The Viking horn guy got over 3 years, That is a political sentencing, not criminal.
    Plus they were held in solitaire for months!

    Most should be put on probation - even for federal sentencing this is harsh ( unusual and cruel)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    the charges are glorified trespassing charges like "parading".
    Im not sure if there was more then 1 assault a cop l)
    Close to 200 cops physically assaulted. If you are this ignorant don't discuss the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Close to 200 cops physically assaulted. If you are this ignorant don't discuss the subject.
    did you actually look at the charges? I did say charges.
    I count a few, but they are charges like "assaulting resisting or impeding"

    So some of those are non-violent as well. If they can prove assault sure they should get locked up but
    not for trespassing/"parading"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    did you actually look at the charges? I did say charges.
    I count a few, but they are charges like "assaulting resisting or impeding"

    So some of those are non-violent as well. If they can prove assault sure they should get locked up but
    not for trespassing/"parading"
    Okay. But why are you defending the violent overthrow of government?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Never said that either. This the best you can do?!
    You are one of the ones that keeps claiming Jan 6 was an "Insurrection." If so, you should be able to provide some conclusive proof of that. One proof would be that those who led and participated in the insurrection have been arrested and charged with that.

    What I see is nothing but a logical fallacy on your (and others saying the same thing) part. Your argument amounts to nothing but a worthless Appeal to probability. That is, you keep claiming, Wait! Eventually the authorities will charge someone with insurrection. Just wait and see! It's a total fictional nonsense argument based on wishful thinking and the sort of absurd conspiracy theories the likes of Adam Schiff trot out all the time.

    Jan 6 was a three hour or so riot and nothing more. Get over it and return to reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    You are one of the ones that keeps claiming Jan 6 was an "Insurrection." If so, you should be able to provide some conclusive proof of that. One proof would be that those who led and participated in the insurrection have been arrested and charged with that.

    What I see is nothing but a logical fallacy on your (and others saying the same thing) part. Your argument amounts to nothing but a worthless Appeal to probability. That is, you keep claiming, Wait! Eventually the authorities will charge someone with insurrection. Just wait and see! It's a total fictional nonsense argument based on wishful thinking and the sort of absurd conspiracy theories the likes of Adam Schiff trot out all the time.

    Jan 6 was a three hour or so riot and nothing more. Get over it and return to reality.

    The House is investigating the insurrection. You should pay attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Okay. But why are you defending the violent overthrow of government?
    Im not. I said lock up the violent ones.. * throw back the little ones*
    While it was also "parading and trespassing" and security breaches any time more then 90 days
    for non-violent first offense is excessive. It was NOT an insurrection as discussed. The FBI even said that
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    It was NOT an insurrection as discussed. The FBI even said that
    Go find the FBI statement. You will never find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    The House is investigating the insurrection. You should pay attention.
    Yea, sure. A bunch of true believers in the conspiracy theory are "investigating" it for the Nth time. Why pay attention to the same sort crackpots that made the, what?, half-dozen plus previous investigations-- including those lead as this one is, by Adam Schiff into things like the Russia collusion that has turned out to be a total hoax and conspiracy theory? It is people like you that aren't looking at these things objectively.

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