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    Default What's at stake if Trump wins in 2024? Single-party authoritarian rule

    In a bombshell report issued last week, the Senate Judiciary Committee painted a disturbing picture of what the United States could become if something drastic isn’t done to halt the slide into single-party rule — and soon.

    Particularly troubling in the report titled “Subverting Justice: How the Former President and His Allies Pressured DOJ to Overturn the 2020 Election” is the foreshadowing of how former President Trump will undoubtedly again abuse the Justice Department if he or one of his allies becomes president in 2025. America has seen this ugliness before. The abuses of the first director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, J. Edgar Hoover, have been described by historians as “little less than blackmail of prominent public officials and private citizens and personal intimidation toward any person or institution daring to question his authority,” including the likes of Eleanor Roosevelt and Martin Luther King, Jr.

    What America is facing with a possible second Trump presidency is the potential for widespread spying, bullying and retaliation of U.S. citizens based on their perceived loyalty or disloyalty to the Oval Office occupant.

    Comedian and HBO host Bill Maher offered a chilling, must-watch preview of the U.S. 2024 presidential election, warning, “I hope I scared the shit out of you.” Yes, we should all be scared.

    Among the findings of the 48-page Senate report, which followed an eight-month preliminary investigation, was that “President Trump repeatedly asked DOJ leadership to endorse his false claims that the election was stolen and to assist his efforts to overturn the election results.”

    Trump specifically requested that White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and Acting Attorney General Jeff Rosen initiate election fraud investigations, “violating longstanding restrictions on White House-DOJ communications about specific law-enforcement matters.” Moreover, Trump allies in the Pennsylvania Republican state caucus and elsewhere “participated in the pressure campaign against DOJ.”

    Trump’s attempt to use the vast and unparalleled law enforcement powers of DOJ is just a preview of what’s in store if he gets a second shot at the White House. What saved America from becoming some scary version of a police state this round were a few individuals — such as Rosen and Vice President Mike Pence — who refused to go along with him. Make no mistake, Trump is likely to install only abject loyalists within the federal criminal justice machinery if he regains power in 2025.

    To be clear, although DOJ is tasked with enforcing voting rights laws such as the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 — and has the authority to prosecute election fraud and campaign finance violations — it has no authorized role in investigating ongoing elections. Its general policy mandates the opposite, banning even voter interviews “until after the outcome of the election allegedly affected by the fraud is certified.”

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    I wonder,.....Do you think maybe the left calling Trump voters or ALL Republicans if were honest, a bunch of evil ,Nazi , scumbag , Domestic terrorist, racist POS for years at a time is helping anything? If a Fascist movement does ever come out of the right to take over the country the left will be a MASSIVE reason why. You can kick even the nicest dog in the world only so many times and eventually he WILL BITE. Hate begets hate. To deny it is not only foolish, but a LIE.

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    Hey lefties,....... do you remember when YOU could have stopped THIS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    In a bombshell report issued last week, the Senate Judiciary Committee painted a disturbing picture of what the United States could become if something drastic isn’t done to halt the slide into single-party rule — and soon.

    Particularly troubling in the report titled “Subverting Justice: How the Former President and His Allies Pressured DOJ to Overturn the 2020 Election” is the foreshadowing of how former President Trump will undoubtedly again abuse the Justice Department if he or one of his allies becomes president in 2025. America has seen this ugliness before. The abuses of the first director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, J. Edgar Hoover, have been described by historians as “little less than blackmail of prominent public officials and private citizens and personal intimidation toward any person or institution daring to question his authority,” including the likes of Eleanor Roosevelt and Martin Luther King, Jr.

    What America is facing with a possible second Trump presidency is the potential for widespread spying, bullying and retaliation of U.S. citizens based on their perceived loyalty or disloyalty to the Oval Office occupant.

    Comedian and HBO host Bill Maher offered a chilling, must-watch preview of the U.S. 2024 presidential election, warning, “I hope I scared the shit out of you.” Yes, we should all be scared.

    Among the findings of the 48-page Senate report, which followed an eight-month preliminary investigation, was that “President Trump repeatedly asked DOJ leadership to endorse his false claims that the election was stolen and to assist his efforts to overturn the election results.”

    Trump specifically requested that White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and Acting Attorney General Jeff Rosen initiate election fraud investigations, “violating longstanding restrictions on White House-DOJ communications about specific law-enforcement matters.” Moreover, Trump allies in the Pennsylvania Republican state caucus and elsewhere “participated in the pressure campaign against DOJ.”

    Trump’s attempt to use the vast and unparalleled law enforcement powers of DOJ is just a preview of what’s in store if he gets a second shot at the White House. What saved America from becoming some scary version of a police state this round were a few individuals — such as Rosen and Vice President Mike Pence — who refused to go along with him. Make no mistake, Trump is likely to install only abject loyalists within the federal criminal justice machinery if he regains power in 2025.

    To be clear, although DOJ is tasked with enforcing voting rights laws such as the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 — and has the authority to prosecute election fraud and campaign finance violations — it has no authorized role in investigating ongoing elections. Its general policy mandates the opposite, banning even voter interviews “until after the outcome of the election allegedly affected by the fraud is certified.”

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    you're fear of the people is palpable.
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    Trump Wins,
    by definition
    https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    In a bombshell report issued last week, the Senate Judiciary Committee painted a disturbing picture of what the United States could become if something drastic isn’t done to halt the slide into single-party rule — and soon.

    Particularly troubling in the report titled “Subverting Justice: How the Former President and His Allies Pressured DOJ to Overturn the 2020 Election” is the foreshadowing of how former President Trump will undoubtedly again abuse the Justice Department if he or one of his allies becomes president in 2025. America has seen this ugliness before. The abuses of the first director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, J. Edgar Hoover, have been described by historians as “little less than blackmail of prominent public officials and private citizens and personal intimidation toward any person or institution daring to question his authority,” including the likes of Eleanor Roosevelt and Martin Luther King, Jr.

    What America is facing with a possible second Trump presidency is the potential for widespread spying, bullying and retaliation of U.S. citizens based on their perceived loyalty or disloyalty to the Oval Office occupant.

    Comedian and HBO host Bill Maher offered a chilling, must-watch preview of the U.S. 2024 presidential election, warning, “I hope I scared the shit out of you.” Yes, we should all be scared.

    Among the findings of the 48-page Senate report, which followed an eight-month preliminary investigation, was that “President Trump repeatedly asked DOJ leadership to endorse his false claims that the election was stolen and to assist his efforts to overturn the election results.”

    Trump specifically requested that White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and Acting Attorney General Jeff Rosen initiate election fraud investigations, “violating longstanding restrictions on White House-DOJ communications about specific law-enforcement matters.” Moreover, Trump allies in the Pennsylvania Republican state caucus and elsewhere “participated in the pressure campaign against DOJ.”

    Trump’s attempt to use the vast and unparalleled law enforcement powers of DOJ is just a preview of what’s in store if he gets a second shot at the White House. What saved America from becoming some scary version of a police state this round were a few individuals — such as Rosen and Vice President Mike Pence — who refused to go along with him. Make no mistake, Trump is likely to install only abject loyalists within the federal criminal justice machinery if he regains power in 2025.

    To be clear, although DOJ is tasked with enforcing voting rights laws such as the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 — and has the authority to prosecute election fraud and campaign finance violations — it has no authorized role in investigating ongoing elections. Its general policy mandates the opposite, banning even voter interviews “until after the outcome of the election allegedly affected by the fraud is certified.”

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    Way to go, Ken. And right on the button.

    The pawns on the right will moan and groan...as is their right. But if they prevail...that right will be gone.

    I guess the Germans backing Hitler in the 1930's and 1930's were blind to the danger also. We can only hope that our fools become conscious before it is too late.
    ON HIS WORST DAY, JOE BIDEN IS A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN TRUMP WAS ON HIS BEST DAY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Way to go, Ken. And right on the button.

    The pawns on the right will moan and groan...as is their right. But if they prevail...that right will be gone.

    I guess the Germans backing Hitler in the 1930's and 1930's were blind to the danger also. We can only hope that our fools become conscious before it is too late.
    Here we go again with the Hitler rhetoric...
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Here we go again with the Hitler rhetoric...
    Well...we were talking about Trump...and his followers!
    ON HIS WORST DAY, JOE BIDEN IS A BETTER PRESIDENT THAN TRUMP WAS ON HIS BEST DAY!

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    "President Joe Biden has imposed travel restrictions into the United States due to coronavirus fears despite previously slamming former President Trump as xenophobic for doing the same thing in 2020."

    https://news.yahoo.com/flashback-bid...ycsrp_catchall


    The president of the United States is a racist and xenophobe.

    The shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Well...we were talking about Trump...and his followers!
    If you live to be 100 yrs. old (and I hope you do), will you still be crying

    TRUMP!?
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    In a bombshell report issued last week, the Senate Judiciary Committee painted a disturbing picture of what the United States could become if something drastic isn’t done to halt the slide into single-party rule — and soon.

    Particularly troubling in the report titled “Subverting Justice: How the Former President and His Allies Pressured DOJ to Overturn the 2020 Election” is the foreshadowing of how former President Trump will undoubtedly again abuse the Justice Department if he or one of his allies becomes president in 2025. America has seen this ugliness before. The abuses of the first director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, J. Edgar Hoover, have been described by historians as “little less than blackmail of prominent public officials and private citizens and personal intimidation toward any person or institution daring to question his authority,” including the likes of Eleanor Roosevelt and Martin Luther King, Jr.

    What America is facing with a possible second Trump presidency is the potential for widespread spying, bullying and retaliation of U.S. citizens based on their perceived loyalty or disloyalty to the Oval Office occupant.

    Comedian and HBO host Bill Maher offered a chilling, must-watch preview of the U.S. 2024 presidential election, warning, “I hope I scared the shit out of you.” Yes, we should all be scared.

    Among the findings of the 48-page Senate report, which followed an eight-month preliminary investigation, was that “President Trump repeatedly asked DOJ leadership to endorse his false claims that the election was stolen and to assist his efforts to overturn the election results.”

    Trump specifically requested that White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and Acting Attorney General Jeff Rosen initiate election fraud investigations, “violating longstanding restrictions on White House-DOJ communications about specific law-enforcement matters.” Moreover, Trump allies in the Pennsylvania Republican state caucus and elsewhere “participated in the pressure campaign against DOJ.”

    Trump’s attempt to use the vast and unparalleled law enforcement powers of DOJ is just a preview of what’s in store if he gets a second shot at the White House. What saved America from becoming some scary version of a police state this round were a few individuals — such as Rosen and Vice President Mike Pence — who refused to go along with him. Make no mistake, Trump is likely to install only abject loyalists within the federal criminal justice machinery if he regains power in 2025.

    To be clear, although DOJ is tasked with enforcing voting rights laws such as the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 — and has the authority to prosecute election fraud and campaign finance violations — it has no authorized role in investigating ongoing elections. Its general policy mandates the opposite, banning even voter interviews “until after the outcome of the election allegedly affected by the fraud is certified.”

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    Well one thing is for sure.

    If Trump runs again, his VP pick will not be Pence or anyone like him. He would probably pick someone who would be complicit with anything he wants to do. Someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene.

    And if he wins, the gloves will certainly be off.

    Make no mistake. Trump sees nothing in preserving the USA. After all, he would ask: "What's in it for me?"
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    What's at stake
    why is it that the fascists are always the first to mention fascism?.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Well...we were talking about Trump...and his followers!
    the fascists always want to talk about Trump and his followers.....
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    The "Five" predicts a red wave in 2022.


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