Lol, Thanksgiving is sort of silly that we eat more to be thankful.
But, I see nothing inherently evil about it, either.
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THIS IS REAL. IT'S NOT A JOKE
Thanksgiving Day is here, and as is the fashion, it’s taking a beating.
“What is Thanksgiving to Indigenous People? ‘A Day of Mourning,’” writes the onetime daily Bible of American mass culture, USA Today.
The Washington Post fused a clickhole headline format with white guilt to create, “This tribe helped the Pilgrims survive for their first Thanksgiving. They still regret it 400 years later.”
Even the pundits who didn’t rummage in the past in search of reasons for Americans to flog themselves this week found some in the future, a la the Post’s climate-change take on Turkey Day menus: “What’s on the Thanksgiving table in a hotter, drier world?”
MSNBC meanwhile kept us all festive by reminding us, with regard to the now-infamous Pilgrims, that “Instead of bringing stuffing and biscuits, those settlers brought genocide and violence”.
In the space of a generation America has gone from being a country brimming with confidence, to one whose intellectual culture has turned into an agonizing, apparently interminable run of performative self-flagellation.
But the historical self-mortification has gotten out of hand. We’re now living through the moronic inverse: America is such a unique evil, we’re told, so much the standard-bearer for the oppression of innocent peoples everywhere, that human suffering before 1776 is hardly worth mentioning. Or before 1492.
Such mental habits are the fashion now and will definitely put you in a bind on Thanksgiving.
How can I eat turkey and stuffing with a smile, when Columbus massacred the Arawaks?
When the English forced the Wampanoags off their land and made many convert to Christianity?
When Lincoln told Horace Greeley, “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it”?
How?
Maybe because you’re more than three years old, and don’t need fairy tales to be real in order to enjoy dinner with family and a football game?
We don’t ask Russians how they can sit around the yelochka every New Year and open presents knowing that Ivan the Terrible used to roast prisoners in giant frying pans, or how they can smoke Belomorkanal cigarettes knowing the White Sea canal is filled with the bones of slave laborers. I think even most MSNBC anchors would agree, that would be stupid.
But we do this to ourselves all the time now, and every year it gets worse.
THIS IS REAL, TOO. IT'S NOT A JOKE EITHER
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Lol, Thanksgiving is sort of silly that we eat more to be thankful.
But, I see nothing inherently evil about it, either.
What does Ivan the Terrible have to do with Thanksgiving!?
Mentally retarded & mentally ill at best.
'leaningright' said Native Americans were not offended by Thanksgiving. Said they promoted it. (I think his claim was that he is part Choctaw)
Since Legion never acquired anything at all his entire life he can hardly be lumped in.
You are absolved and may eat from the soup kitchen today.
Earl (11-26-2021)
Guno צְבִי (11-25-2021)
Where's the genocide cheering in the History of Thanksgiving!?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving
Prayers of thanks and special thanksgiving ceremonies are common among most religions after harvests and at other times.[1] The Thanksgiving holiday's history in North America is rooted in English traditions dating from the Protestant Reformation. It also has aspects of a harvest festival, even though the harvest in New England occurs well before the late-November date on which the modern Thanksgiving holiday is celebrated.[1][2]
In the English tradition, days of thanksgiving and special thanksgiving religious services became important during the English Reformation in the reign of Henry VIII.[3] Before 1536 there were 95 Church holidays, plus 52 Sundays, when people were required to attend church and forego work. Though the 1536 reforms in the Church of England reduced the number of holidays in the liturgical calendar to 14, the Puritan party in the Anglican Church wished to eliminate all Church holidays apart from the weekly Lord's Day, including Christmas and Easter.[3] The holidays were to be replaced by specially called Days of Fasting or Days of Thanksgiving, in response to events that the Puritans viewed as acts of special providence. Unexpected disasters or threats of judgement from on high called for Days of Fasting.[4][3]
Special blessings, viewed as coming from God, called for Days of Thanksgiving, which were observed through Christian church services and family dinners.[3] For example, Days of Fasting were called on account of drought in 1611, floods in 1613, and plagues in 1604 and 1622. Days of thanksgiving were called following the victory over the Spanish Armada in 1588 and following the deliverance of Queen Anne in 1605.[4] Annual Thanksgiving prayers were dictated by the charter of English settlers upon their safe landing in America in 1619 at Berkeley Hundred in Virginia.[5] An unusual annual Day of Thanksgiving began in 1606 following the failure of the Gunpowder Plot in 1605 and developed into Guy Fawkes Day on November 5.[4]
The abolitionist history of Thanksgiving and pumpkin pie — and why the South resisted both
https://www.northjersey.com/story/food/2021/11/24/pumpkin-pie-thanksgiving-abolitionist-history-and/8667841002/
WHY SOME NATIVE AMERICANS IN CINCINNATI OBSERVE A DAY OF MOURNING ON THANKSGIVING
https://www.cincinnatimagazine.com/article/why-some-native-americans-in-cincinnati-observe-a-day-of-mourning-on-thanksgiving/
Marking a Different Thanksgiving Tradition, From West Africa
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/08/dining/liberian-american-thanksgiving-west-africa.html
Maybe we Should boycott Hanukkah as being inherently anti Western.
Let's Cancel Thanksgiving
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lets-cancel-thanksgiving_b_8600224
Happy National Genocide (Thanksgiving) Day!
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/thanksgiving-pequot-massacre_b_4337722
Native Americans Mourn On Thanksgiving
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/huffpost-reports-no-thanks-given_n_5a15d369e4b0859b3dffcd6c
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