Salvation Army Wants White Donors to Offer “Sincere Apology” for Their Racism

[Nomad]

"Not all or even most of that welfare spending has gone to blacks. Most of it went to poor whites." You posted no link to prove this.

The Great Depression has no relevance to the LBJ's War on poverty. They were decades apart. The Great Depression was a one off and the War on Poverty was generational.

The effect was the same.

Mass poverty is mass poverty and the kind of poverty that was experienced by people of all races during The Depression was of the real, genuine and lethal kind, as opposed to the merely uncomfortable kind that passes for poverty in today's world.

And the fact that poverty today is merely uncomfortable rather than lethal, is thanks to the war on poverty that began under LBJ in the 1960's.

If those policies had never existed or had been abolished at some point, we would be seeing people dying from starvation in this country rather than just not living at he same standards as working and middle class people.

"Rather than looking at what those welfare dollars have NOT accomplished in terms of "ending poverty"... (which I do not think was ever the goal to begin with..."


"Johnson Promotes His Great Society Programs, Seeking to “encourage an increase in anti-poverty efforts.” The Great Society was a set of domestic programs promoted by President Johnson in the 1960s. Two main goals of the Great Society social reforms were the ***elimination of poverty*** and racial injustice.Dec 31, 1969"
Wikipedia

C'mon. It's Wikipedia. Anyone can put anything they want to in there.

I notice a couple of things about your quote. 1) you didn't include a link. I looked at the Wiki page and did not find anything that matched what you quoted and 2) the quote is dated 12/31/1969, a good five years after the legislation, which leads me to believe that whoever said what you quoted might not have been LBJ himself.

But all that aside.... when LBJ initially proposed and Congress passed into law his war on poverty, what was considered poverty back then was more like what I described above.... starving and living in the most primitive conditions imaginable. No heat, no running water or indoor plumbing of any kind, literally rags for clothing, etc. Those are the conditions which defined poverty in those days and looking around us today, one can honestly say that poverty... as defined back in the era when the programs were created... has in fact been eliminated.

Tofay's definition of poverty is nothing cloise to what the definition of poverty in 1964 was.

"Certainly one can look at anything from only a negative perspective and call it a failure." The Civil Rights Laws can not be called a failure.

I certainly would not call them a failure and maybe you wouldn't either.

But there are plenty of people on the extremist far right who do.

Which was pretty much my point.

Anything can be viewed from any perspective one wishes to view it from.

[Earl]

"And as we engage in conversations about race and racism, we must keep in mind that sincere repentance and apologies are necessary if we want to move towards racial reconciliation".

https://s3.amazonaws.com/cache.salva...About...%2520R acism%2520COMPLETE%2520SET.pdf

[domer76]

"And as we engage in conversations about race and racism, we must keep in mind that sincere repentance and apologies are necessary if we want to move towards racial reconciliation".

https://s3.amazonaws.com/cache.salva...About...%2520R acism%2520COMPLETE%2520SET.pdf

I’ll ask again, illiterate fuck, since you failed to answer before.

Who are the apologies directed to?

[Earl]

https://s3.amazonaws.com/cache.salva...About...%2520R acism%2520COMPLETE%2520SET.pdf

[Lionfish]

[Earl]

Indeed!

[RB 60]

It's sad what it has become, isn't it?

[cancel2 2022]

Who said anything about curing racism, you fucking illiterate. The document is “Let’s Talk About Racism”.

I have no feeling toward that document at all. I’m an atheist and don’t need to lament nor repent. I’m merely laughing at your fucking meltdown about its contents.

I see you failed to grasp that WWII analogy.

I’m not telling you shit about how you should or should not relate to anybody, you racist punk. That’s up to you.

However, that you fail to recognize one thing that the SA document DOES try to discuss is the systemic racism still present in this country. I even gave you examples, numerous examples, from my lifetime, experienced by many my age and younger. And the best you can do is squawk “You think this is still the 60s!” That you think the virulent racism that was present in the last half of the 20th century has magically disappeared is just fucking pathetic. Ignorantly pathetic.

WHOOSH, motherfucker. The point I was making totally escaped you.

Bet all you want, Jethro. So far, you’re Oh-for and melting down more with every post.

It’s damn funny to watch.

Good times, you two were very entertaining!

[Earl]

Good times, you two were very entertaining!

Closed minds, Prima. They will not admit what is directly in front of them...hence, black is white.

Nothing will change their minds but the guests need to hear the truth...the truth will stand til the end of time.

[cancel2 2022]

Yes, I watch House Hunters International often. It is very interesting and informative.

There is a show on PBS called "Back to the Chalet" ...something like that. A British couple remodeling an old French castle. It's a great show. the wife is the star.

It's called Escape To The Chateau.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6249614/

[Earl]

It's called Escape To The Chateau.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6249614/

It's a great show, Prima.

Two lovely people.

[cancel2 2022]

It's a great show, Prima.

Two lovely people.

Yes it is, Dick Strawbridge is a real character.