When the Big Lie Was Born

[Into the Night]

LOL

Man, you've gotta take a LONG trip through memory lane for some of those. And I don't recall any of 'em inspiring an insurrection, or a majority of a major political party to think our elections are now corrupt.

Election fraud by Democrats has been a problem a long time. The 2020 election faulted due to election fraud by Democrats.

I also love when people bring up that insurance one. It's actually not a lie

It is. Fortunately, ObamaCare collapsed.

- and it's the only one conservatives can cite from Obama, from 8 years.

WRONG.

I can cite 2,000 from Trump (in 4 years).

You are making up numbers. Argument from randU fallacy.

[Into the Night]

Even though their own trusted sources such as Rasmussen told them Trump was on track to lose, even though all the pre-election signs spelled doom, not only did Biden not truly win but his loss in a fair election was a certainty going in. This is the bonkers mind set that binds around forty percent of the public.

Rasmussen is NOT a trusted source. News polls don't mean anything. Argument from randU fallacy.

[Into the Night]

That's how they get by in la la land: "whenever you need to, change the subject".

You are describing Democrats.

[Into the Night]

In all fairness to the Reichtards, the polls in 2016 looked very favorable to Hillary, yet she lost by a hair. She actually DID get more votes, but the EC win was about the same as Biden's over #TRE45ON.

That being said, normal, rational people know that #TRE45ON lost fair and square. Even his own DOJ said so. The conclusion here is that the Cult is neither normal nor rational.

The President is not elected by popular vote. News polls don't mean anything.

[Into the Night]

Wow, the most recent lie Stone can think of is 25 years old.

Lie.

[Into the Night]

God you are creepy. Look at your life. You do not work, supported by your family, and sit around posting that you are going to get revenge on portions of America, including my children. If you hate your life so much, change it. Get a job away from your family. Contribute to society.

Inversion fallacy.

[Into the Night]

No, that is not what we are talking about.

Yes it is.

However, he did not have sex with her. Sex is how we make babies. That was not happening if she was just honking his horn.

Sex does not necessarily cause a baby. Requiring an intern to 'honk his horn', as you put it is also illegal.

I kept my insurance. Almost everyone did.

No you didn't. No one did.

[Into the Night]

Always with the negative Trump crap! Why can't you say something positive and righteous for a change?

Because Trump is living in their heads rent free.

[signalmankenneth]

When The Big Lie Was Born
or
How Did Trump Know?

Donald Trump did not first tell us about the Stolen Election after it happened.
He told us before it happened, months before. As early as June he was sounding the alarm
that Democrats were fixing the election against him. As election day approached he went further,
arguing that his own popularity had become so great that it was not possible for Biden to win
except by fraud, a startling statement given that Biden was leading in the polls, all the polls,
leads outside their margins of error. Even Rasmussen, the most Republican friendly national
poll, predicted Trump would lose. In what must have seemed a blow, company president
Scott Rasmussen wrote a column a few days before the election warning there
was little chance Trump could close the gap.

Rasmussen and all the other pollsters might have been mistaken, of course. Trump might
have won after all. Biden’s official electoral vote victory by the same margin that Trump
defeated Hillary Clinton, which he had called a “blowout”, might not have happened in what
we think of as the visible world; that it was mere coincidence the size of Biden’s electoral vote
was about what the polls predicted and from the states the polls predicted. But how could
Trump have KNOWN the polls were wrong, known that Biden despite his apparent insurmountable
lead not only might still lose but could only lose. Incredibly, breathtakingly when you think
about it, HE DID KNOW. “I alone knew,” he might have said, in that way he has of occasionally
reminding us of his special standing in the universe.

There is but one possible answer to this question of How Trump Knew when no one else did
or could. Donald Trump walks with God.

I know it and so do you.

Well, come to think of it, there is another answer to consider: that Trump’s pre-election certainty
of Biden’s only (dishonest) chance of beating him was a product of his imagination and fear of
losing, that he obviously made the whole thing up back in June, 2020 and all the other days leading
to the election when over and over he sang the same tale of predicted, not his fault, election night woe
maybe for himself but definitely for his voters for whom he could not bear the thought of being
perceived “a loser”.

If so, a simple lesson and choice lie herein: it has been from its pre-election beginning, The Big Lie. Or, Donald
Trump walks with God. Take your pick.

Note: links to sources not provided; they are easily found via Google

Question, his own popularity had become so great that it was not possible for Biden to win
except by fraud?!! Trump never was popular with all the American people only his base supporters, and they alone was not enough for him to win?!! Trump never was above 50% approval in the polls while in office and left office with only a 34% approval. Trump's sensitive ego took a hit, with his election lost, hence he started the big lie?!!

[martin]

Question, his own popularity had become so great that it was not possible for Biden to win
except by fraud?!! Trump never was popular with all the American people only his base supporters, and they alone was not enough for him to win?!! Trump never was above 50% approval in the polls while in office and left office with only a 34% approval. Trump's sensitive ego took a hit, with his election lost, hence he started the big lie?!!

This was the necessary implication of his argument that Biden could not possibly win a fair election. It is the premise of the Stolen Election theory, and the key to its underlying absurdity: all the polls were wrong and Donald Trump not only hoped and suspected they could be wrong, he had information that only he possessed that they were wrong since he knew his popularity was greater than Biden's.

[Earl]

Yes, the presidential election was stolen.

We already knew that.

The two senatorial elections in Georgia too.

[moon]

Yes, the presidential election was stolen.

Blame the Israeli spyware.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...s-the-Izraelis

[martin]

Yes, the presidential election was stolen.

We already knew that.

The two senatorial elections in Georgia too.

The question is: How did anyone know in advance that a Biden victory could only mean the election was stolen when all the evidence pointed to a Trump defeat.

[PoliTalker]

Hello martin,

When The Big Lie Was Born
or
How Did Trump Know?

Donald Trump did not first tell us about the Stolen Election after it happened.
He told us before it happened, months before. As early as June he was sounding the alarm
that Democrats were fixing the election against him. As election day approached he went further,
arguing that his own popularity had become so great that it was not possible for Biden to win
except by fraud, a startling statement given that Biden was leading in the polls, all the polls,
leads outside their margins of error. Even Rasmussen, the most Republican friendly national
poll, predicted Trump would lose. In what must have seemed a blow, company president
Scott Rasmussen wrote a column a few days before the election warning there
was little chance Trump could close the gap.

Rasmussen and all the other pollsters might have been mistaken, of course. Trump might
have won after all. Biden’s official electoral vote victory by the same margin that Trump
defeated Hillary Clinton, which he had called a “blowout”, might not have happened in what
we think of as the visible world; that it was mere coincidence the size of Biden’s electoral vote
was about what the polls predicted and from the states the polls predicted. But how could
Trump have KNOWN the polls were wrong, known that Biden despite his apparent insurmountable
lead not only might still lose but could only lose. Incredibly, breathtakingly when you think
about it, HE DID KNOW. “I alone knew,” he might have said, in that way he has of occasionally
reminding us of his special standing in the universe.

There is but one possible answer to this question of How Trump Knew when no one else did
or could. Donald Trump walks with God.

I know it and so do you.

Well, come to think of it, there is another answer to consider: that Trump’s pre-election certainty
of Biden’s only (dishonest) chance of beating him was a product of his imagination and fear of
losing, that he obviously made the whole thing up back in June, 2020 and all the other days leading
to the election when over and over he sang the same tale of predicted, not his fault, election night woe
maybe for himself but definitely for his voters for whom he could not bear the thought of being
perceived “a loser”.

If so, a simple lesson and choice lie herein: it has been from its pre-election beginning, The Big Lie. Or, Donald
Trump walks with God. Take your pick.

Note: links to sources not provided; they are easily found via Google

Easy.

It is A Big Lie.

[Doc Dutch]

Always with the negative Trump crap! Why can't you say something positive and righteous for a change?

What is a positive thing about Trump except that he lost in 2020?