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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    Why are some of the most "vaccinated" states soaring with cases and some states less vaccinated, are not?

    Something does not compute with what you are saying.
    Do you think the vaccine makes people MORE susceptible to COVID?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Do you think the vaccine makes people MORE susceptible to COVID?
    They are simpletons that don't understand how a virus works. They don't know WHAT they are suggesting. LIG is a perfect example. She rushes here with an out of context fact and think it proves something. The unvaxxed are the ones getting it. There are morons like LIG in every state in the union, and this winter, they will probably all catch Covid, and a lot of them will die. It is what it is. Darwin at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conman View Post
    They are simpletons that don't understand how a virus works. They don't know WHAT they are suggesting. LIG is a perfect example. She rushes here with an out of context fact and think it proves something. The unvaxxed are the ones getting it. There are morons like LIG in every state in the union, and this winter, they will probably all catch Covid, and a lot of them will die. It is what it is. Darwin at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stringfellow Hawk View Post
    go watch the news and get back to us with something relevant
    Of course. Your lies are the only thing relevant in your world.

    Meanwhile back in the real world where they actually keep numbers on the vaccination status of those infected -
    At no point were 70% of the infections in vaccinated people in Minnesota.

    How do I know this? Because I don't rely on the news. I rely on the actual numbers released by those that keep track of them.

    https://www.health.state.mn.us/disea...stats/vbt.html

    They have a lovely little chart that even you can probably understand. It shows the last 6 months of infection rates of vaccinated and unvaccinated people.
    "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."

    "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Do you think the vaccine makes people MORE susceptible to COVID?
    I think the "vaccine" is not a vaccine, in the traditional sense. Otherwise, this wouldn't be happening.

    That is common sense.

    The most "vaccinated" states would keep a low positivity rate due to their status. But, that's clearly not the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    They are simpletons that don't understand how a virus works. They don't know WHAT they are suggesting. LIG is a perfect example. She rushes here with an out of context fact and think it proves something. The unvaxxed are the ones getting it. There are morons like LIG in every state in the union, and this winter, they will probably all catch Covid, and a lot of them will die. It is what it is. Darwin at work.
    Another angry militant Covidian doing damage control.

    Next....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    I think the "vaccine" is not a vaccine, in the traditional sense. Otherwise, this wouldn't be happening.

    That is common sense.

    The most "vaccinated" states would keep a low positivity rate due to their status. But, that's clearly not the case.
    That didn't answer the question.

    If the vaccine does NOT make people more susceptible (which it doesn't) - then clearly there are other variables involved. And there are. Probably many.

    It's too broad to say, "this state has a high infection rate, and they're one of the most vaccinated. Therefore, the vaccine is useless," or come to any conclusion along those lines.

    In general, that's why I leave science to the scientists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    That didn't answer the question.

    If the vaccine does NOT make people more susceptible (which it doesn't) - then clearly there are other variables involved. And there are. Probably many.

    It's too broad to say, "this state has a high infection rate, and they're one of the most vaccinated. Therefore, the vaccine is useless," or come to any conclusion along those lines.

    In general, that's why I leave science to the scientists.
    No. You never answered MY original question - Why are some of the most "vaccinated" states soaring with cases and some states less vaccinated, are not?

    Why not? Asking me another question is not an answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    No. You never answered MY original question - Why are some of the most "vaccinated" states soaring with cases and some states less vaccinated, are not?

    Why not? Asking me another question is not an answer
    I don't know. How would I know? I don't study this stuff.

    But clearly, there are other variables. I'd guess things like colder weather (bringing more people inside and allowing more spread), pockets of unvaccinated in rural areas, more public gatherings, et al.

    Like I said in the last post, these things can be pretty complicated w/ a myriad of factors involved. I'll leave it to the pro's to figure that stuff out. I don't have an agenda around the vaccine one way or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    The scientific community works 24x7 to come up with a vaccine to a global pandemic in under a year, saving countless lives. And you call it an "evil joke on the world."

    That's almost incomprehensible.
    CDC changed the definition of vaccination:
    "The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunnity to a specific disease."
    TO
    "The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease."

    Taking the MRNA jab does not make you immune, nor does it prevent transmission. It is therefore nothing but a therapeutic.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    That didn't answer the question.

    If the vaccine does NOT make people more susceptible (which it doesn't) - then clearly there are other variables involved. And there are. Probably many.

    It's too broad to say, "this state has a high infection rate, and they're one of the most vaccinated. Therefore, the vaccine is useless," or come to any conclusion along those lines.

    In general, that's why I leave science to the scientists.
    LOL, how dumb can LIG get? Positivity rates reflect the number of positive tests. Since most fully vaxxed people AREN'T GETTING TESTED vaccination rates during a major outbreak become irrelevant. Those getting tested are by and large the unvaxxed who are showing symptoms.

    Why are vaccinated states having outbreaks? Because the unvaccinated states already had their fourth wave, and are now waiting on the fifth. It appears to be starting in some of the states even as we speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stringfellow Hawk View Post
    of course they do now but back a few months ago they were showing high 70s, the message constantly changes from the left
    That is not a message from the "left" but from the health department. All medical information is not partisan.

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