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    the term "backsliding" is too tame, "almost an autocracy" would be more fitting

    I would argue the US has been a pseudo democracy all the while, more like a plutocracy.... thanks mainly to our right wing party of billionaires

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    the term "backsliding" is too tame, "almost an autocracy" would be more fitting

    I would argue the US has been a pseudo democracy all the while, more like a plutocracy.... thanks mainly to our right wing party of billionaires
    Plutocracy at least since Reagan. Even Obama never criticized that right wing maniac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    How were you repressed? I assume you were never a citizen.
    Too many rules and regulations. We’d joke about how many laws we would unknowingly break that day. Like throwing my trash into the street side garbage bin on a Thursday, e.g.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Too many rules and regulations. We’d joke about how many laws we would unknowingly break that day. Like throwing my trash into the street side garbage bin on a Thursday, e.g.
    Oh my god!!! Hitler rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Oh my god!!! Hitler rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    A classmate of my granddaughters was tested positive for COVID. All kids in the school were quarantined for two weeks. The police went to her apartment, had the child come to the front door and state her birthday to confirm she was at home. Scary enough right there.
    Now how did the police even know her birthday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Public health.




    Yea, sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    A classmate of my granddaughters was tested positive for COVID. All kids in the school were quarantined for two weeks. The police went to her apartment, had the child come to the front door and state her birthday to confirm she was at home. Scary enough right there.
    Now how did the police even know her birthday?
    They care about public health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post




    Yea, sure...
    troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    the term "backsliding" is too tame, "almost an autocracy" would be more fitting

    I would argue the US has been a pseudo democracy all the while, more like a plutocracy.... thanks mainly to our right wing party of billionaires
    Backsliding is a little strong. No authoritarian measures have been imposed and the "tendency" toward overturning an election failed. Democratic procedures prevailed. No billionaire is repressing me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Backsliding is a little strong. No authoritarian measures have been imposed and the "tendency" toward overturning an election failed. Democratic procedures prevailed. No billionaire is repressing me.
    Definition of plutocracy

    1: government by the wealthy
    2: a controlling class of the wealthy

    if you believe that doesn't describe the US power structure you haven't been paying attention

    we have an elite class running the show, political parties are mere employees....the reason they pay few if any taxes and commit various crimes at their leisure with only a few exceptions, like Robert Durst who escaped justice in 1982 and is only now being held accountable

    Trump is a perfect example.......to this day, after committing who knows how many crimes, sits in one of his mansions spewing hated while an army of high priced lawyers hold off the jailer

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    Definition of plutocracy

    1: government by the wealthy
    2: a controlling class of the wealthy

    if you believe that doesn't describe the US power structure you haven't been paying attention

    we have an elite class running the show, political parties are mere employees....the reason they pay few if any taxes and commit various crimes at their leisure with only a few exceptions, like Robert Durst who escaped justice in 1982 and is only now being held accountable

    Trump is a perfect example.......to this day, after committing who knows how many crimes, sits in one of his mansions spewing hated while an army of high priced lawyers hold off the jailer
    I bet you voted for a very wealthy person for president.

    To suggest is was ever different ignores history. The average person has more influence today than any previous period. They just don't usually choose to exercise that power.

    The old "wealthy are oppressing me" gets old and has been around forever. It is an excuse to get people to vote to "take back our country" by voting for the other rich people. We have the power to kick anybody out of office and shut down any powerful corporation.

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    We’re probably on that list at least partly because many of us are so resistant to globalism and having our citizens subject to the same restrictions as other countries’ citizens. The first few that come to my mind are fuel prices/consumption, recycling, gun laws and drastic, continual shutdowns due to COVID. Many of us want no part of globalism in general though. I know I don’t. Shoot, I don’t even want to be subject to the same restrictive laws that my friends in California have to put up with.

    I’m not a Republican so I couldn’t vote for a Republican in the primaries in 2016 and if I could have I would have voted for Cruz. But after it came down to Hillary and Trump I was pleasantly happy to learn that he wasn’t a globalist either. He campaigned on it and when elected he followed through with it. He insisted that the countries who had been getting breaks since WWII renegotiate fairer tariff rates. He also pointed out that many of the European countries hadn’t come through on their promise (since WWII) to devote at least 2% of their GDP to their own defense spending. None of that endeared us to the folks across the pond.

    In short, at least it was evident that Trump put the US first. I didn’t have a problem with that. Even the wall, which I am indifferent about, was trying to do something about the problem at our southern border. And there is a problem no matter how much Joe and Kamala turn a blind eye to it. Once again, the guy campaigned on it and would have accomplished it if he wasn’t blocked at every turn. But I’m digressing.

    Nothing has happened to make us more or less of the democratic republic our constitution spells us out to be. As the poster above me has noted, “we have the power to kick anybody out of office and shut down any powerful corporation.” Think about it…Trump is no longer president because of the power of the vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    We’re probably on that list at least partly because many of us are so resistant to globalism and having our citizens subject to the same restrictions as other countries’ citizens. The first few that come to my mind are fuel prices/consumption, recycling, gun laws and drastic, continual shutdowns due to COVID. Many of us want no part of globalism in general though. I know I don’t. Shoot, I don’t even want to be subject to the same restrictive laws that my friends in California have to put up with.

    I’m not a Republican so I couldn’t vote for a Republican in the primaries in 2016 and if I could have I would have voted for Cruz. But after it came down to Hillary and Trump I was pleasantly happy to learn that he wasn’t a globalist either. He campaigned on it and when elected he followed through with it. He insisted that the countries who had been getting breaks since WWII renegotiate fairer tariff rates. He also pointed out that many of the European countries hadn’t come through on their promise (since WWII) to devote at least 2% of their GDP to their own defense spending. None of that endeared us to the folks across the pond.

    In short, at least it was evident that Trump put the US first. I didn’t have a problem with that. Even the wall, which I am indifferent about, was trying to do something about the problem at our southern border. And there is a problem no matter how much Joe and Kamala turn a blind eye to it. Once again, the guy campaigned on it and would have accomplished it if he wasn’t blocked at every turn. But I’m digressing.

    Nothing has happened to make us more or less of the democratic republic our constitution spells us out to be. As the poster above me has noted, “we have the power to kick anybody out of office and shut down any powerful corporation.” Think about it…Trump is no longer president because of the power of the vote.

    duhhhhhh globalism duhhhhhhh

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Public health is not authoritarianism. You hate democracy because you are a fascist.
    freedomsafety.jpg
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    They care about public health.
    Though I am positive he is not stating this accurately, they are doing the right thing if they interviewed the parents and tried to determine with whom
    she had been in recent close contact. DOB is the most important identifier after the full name. Of course they want DOB. It's usually best
    if moose keeps his piehole shut. Pass the conche already. He hates policy of any sort it seems. He just wants adults running around acting like children.

    That is probably a small school if they quarantined the entire place over a single case.

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