"If the job that you’re offering sucks..."

[Walt]

"If the job that you’re offering sucks, is the solution really go find more suckers, or should you improve the job?"

“When they say there’s a shortage, you have to ignore basic math. Every year, states license over 400,000 people to drive big trucks,” Spencer said.

“So whether they say there’s a shortage of 60,000 or 80,000 or whatever, over 400,000 is a lot of people. Where do they all go? Most clearly don’t stick in this occupation that they just got licensed for.”

"Anybody that’s willing to work 70 or 80 hours a week can make more money, spend less out of pocket, and sleep at home every night working in fast food."

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/lo...?siteid=yhoof2

[Walt]

He makes some good points. There are many jobs in America, that when you think about it, are simply not worth doing. They are needed for a society, but their compensation is so low that people lose money for doing them. The way our society keeps these jobs being done is finding suckers who think they are on the bottom rung of a latter. They run up debts to keep a job, but then find out that there are just more debts after that.

As a society, we need to figure out how to compensate these people a fair wage, and give them a reasonable job.

Truck drivers are usually paid by the mile. They will spend about 40% of their time waiting for items to loaded and unloaded. That means they are not paid for 40% of their time.

[Hawkeye10]

THe coming global depression will solve this problem of people who dont want work, and/or dont know how to work.

I am 35 min in:

[Walt]

THe coming global depression will solve this problem of people who dont want work, and/or dont know how to work.

The thread is about jobs that working them loses you money. If we were in a depression, these jobs would have you starve to death.

[Earl]

Biden-38%

Horizontal Harris-28%

Down near child molester territory.

[Callinectes]

The thread is about jobs that working them loses you money. If we were in a depression, these jobs would have you starve to death.

So, you’re saying there are jobs out there that need doing, but if you take one of them, you’ll LOSE money? Compared to what? Sitting on your ass sucking on the government teat?

[Walt]

So, you’re saying there are jobs out there that need doing, but if you take one of them, you’ll LOSE money? Compared to what? Sitting on your ass sucking on the government teat?

Well lets take an unpaid internship as an example. Many times, you are required to pay a school for doing an unpaid internship for a company. That money would be borrowed by many students using government guaranteed debts. The promise is that maybe, possibly, that unpaid internship will payoff at some future date... But once they have you marked as a sucker, why should they want to ever pay you?

[PostmodernProphet]

"If the job that you’re offering sucks, is the solution really go find more suckers, or should you improve the job?"



"Anybody that’s willing to work 70 or 80 hours a week can make more money, spend less out of pocket, and sleep at home every night working in fast food."

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/lo...?siteid=yhoof2

intermodal shipping is on the rise........long range delivery by rail to distribution hubs.....short range truck routes......so far the difficulty lies in small volume deliveries........perhaps mini-containers is a solution......

https://www.commerceexpressinc.com/2...l-always-wins/

[ThatOwlWoman]

He makes some good points. There are many jobs in America, that when you think about it, are simply not worth doing. They are needed for a society, but their compensation is so low that people lose money for doing them. The way our society keeps these jobs being done is finding suckers who think they are on the bottom rung of a latter. They run up debts to keep a job, but then find out that there are just more debts after that.

As a society, we need to figure out how to compensate these people a fair wage, and give them a reasonable job.

Truck drivers are usually paid by the mile. They will spend about 40% of their time waiting for items to loaded and unloaded. That means they are not paid for 40% of their time.

A lot of those non-trucking jobs are taken by legal and illegal immigrants. When the supply of them dries up, employers have a hard time hiring citizens to work at them for what they're willing to pay.

[Mr.Badguy]

I've said before that this is a wide spread, unorganized labor movement. Union busting can't work forever.

[Earl]

Biden-38%

Horizontal Harris-28%

Down near child molester territory.

[PoliTalker]

Hello Walt,

"If the job that you’re offering sucks, is the solution really go find more suckers, or should you improve the job?"

"Anybody that’s willing to work 70 or 80 hours a week can make more money, spend less out of pocket, and sleep at home every night working in fast food."

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/lo...?siteid=yhoof2

Both jobs suck.

Fast food is a grind. And you're in people's faces all the time. Sharing air. Spreading the disease. It is a ticket to loser-city.

Truck driving is much safer in that respect. Got your own space, stay safer from COVID. But it is far more dangerous because the American highway is carnage that kills 36,000 Americans every year. And what a boring job. Not to mention really hard on the body. Nobody should sit for hours at a time. Humans need to get up and move about to be healthy and stay fit.

You really could not pay most people enough to do either of those jobs.

Our society is messed up.

We eat too much fast food and we buy too much crap.

If we were a smarter society, we would eat healthy and value other things in life besides buying cheap imported crap from China.

Where does all the crap we buy go?

Some of it becomes litter. Some of it goes into the recycling stream. Most of it goes into the landfill.

What kind of society are we that we think this is OK and we should keep doing this?

We extract raw materials from the ground, we use precious energy to turn it into cheap disposable products, we sell it to the public, it gets used for a relatively short duration (anywhere from single use to a few months or even years) and then it goes into the landfill.

That's DUMB!

We have become a one-way conveyor belt. We extract natural resources and turn it into landfill material.

Just how long do we think we can keep THAT up?

Does anybody else look at the big picture here?

These are my observations, and I NEVER hear anybody else talking about this stuff.

I guess people don't want to think about the meaning of our existence.

Or (worse in my view) they think GOD has a plan.

Well if this is God's plan then God is pretty stupid.

We humans need to think for ourselves and think of the long range implications of what we are doing.

There needs to be a closed loop. This one-way conveyor belt of our existence needs to become a full circle.

We need to recycle EVERYTHING.

Energy, resources, matter, everything.

Until we get there, we are dumb animals destroying our own limited habitat, and pretending it is unlimited.

But it isn't.

We gotta think about the big picture of what we are doing.

Fast food and truck driving are not where we want to be.

We are archaic.

[SmarterthanYou]

He makes some good points. There are many jobs in America, that when you think about it, are simply not worth doing. They are needed for a society, but their compensation is so low that people lose money for doing them. The way our society keeps these jobs being done is finding suckers who think they are on the bottom rung of a latter. They run up debts to keep a job, but then find out that there are just more debts after that.

As a society, we need to figure out how to compensate these people a fair wage, and give them a reasonable job.

Truck drivers are usually paid by the mile. They will spend about 40% of their time waiting for items to loaded and unloaded. That means they are not paid for 40% of their time.

there are jobs that only those with no marketable skills can do........and if someone went through their life without developing any marketable skills, why on earth should they get paid as much, or more, for their lack of drive? the reason these jobs go unfilled now is because they can make more money sponging off the taxpayers through government handouts...........so why bother working no skilled jobs, when doing so takes away the free money?

[SmarterthanYou]

The thread is about jobs that working them loses you money. If we were in a depression, these jobs would have you starve to death.

which SHOULD show anyone with a brain that government is incompetent at regulating commerce

[SmarterthanYou]

Well lets take an unpaid internship as an example. Many times, you are required to pay a school for doing an unpaid internship for a company. That money would be borrowed by many students using government guaranteed debts. The promise is that maybe, possibly, that unpaid internship will payoff at some future date... But once they have you marked as a sucker, why should they want to ever pay you?

does that internship teach the person skills they can use in the job market afterwards?