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    Default AIG sues United States

    This is incredible:

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2009/3/20/115413/405

    AIG Sues United States
    By Big Tent Democrat, Section Economy
    Posted on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 10:54:13 AM EST
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    But not over the bonuses. NYTimes:

    While the American International Group comes under fire from Congress over executive bonuses, it is quietly fighting the federal government for the return of $306 million in tax payments, some related to deals that were conducted through offshore tax havens. A.I.G. sued the government last month in a bid to force it to return the payments, which stemmed in large part from its use of aggressive tax deals, some involving entities controlled by the company’s financial products unit in the Cayman Islands, Ireland, the Dutch Antilles and other offshore havens.

    [AIG is suing, in part, over] deals involv[ing] A.I.G. offshore entities whose function centers on executive compensation and include C. V. Starr & Company, a closely held concern controlled by Maurice R. Greenberg, A.I.G.’s former chairman, and the Starr International Company, a privately held enterprise incorporated in Panama, and commonly known as SICO.

    What a world.







    We should give the money back to them, and deduct the same amount from their bailout check. Ungreatful louts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    This is incredible:

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2009/3/20/115413/405

    AIG Sues United States
    By Big Tent Democrat, Section Economy
    Posted on Fri Mar 20, 2009 at 10:54:13 AM EST
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    But not over the bonuses. NYTimes:

    While the American International Group comes under fire from Congress over executive bonuses, it is quietly fighting the federal government for the return of $306 million in tax payments, some related to deals that were conducted through offshore tax havens. A.I.G. sued the government last month in a bid to force it to return the payments, which stemmed in large part from its use of aggressive tax deals, some involving entities controlled by the company’s financial products unit in the Cayman Islands, Ireland, the Dutch Antilles and other offshore havens.

    [AIG is suing, in part, over] deals involv[ing] A.I.G. offshore entities whose function centers on executive compensation and include C. V. Starr & Company, a closely held concern controlled by Maurice R. Greenberg, A.I.G.’s former chairman, and the Starr International Company, a privately held enterprise incorporated in Panama, and commonly known as SICO.

    What a world.







    We should give the money back to them, and deduct the same amount from their bailout check. Ungreatful louts.
    Frivilous lawsuits!
    We need some tort reform obviously.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    can we put them in prison yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    can we put them in prison yet?
    After we have them shot?

    How can AIG sue itself? It seems that the USA pretty much owns it.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    naaa I think we could have them work off the debt one day in a chaingang at a time.

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    Good! Taxing a specific group of people in a specific company at 90% is unconstitutional. I hope the Congressmen who voted for this, whether Democrat or Republican, are exposed as the fools they are. Their actions were nothing more than political opportunism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabasco View Post
    Good! Taxing a specific group of people in a specific company at 90% is unconstitutional. I hope the Congressmen who voted for this, whether Democrat or Republican, are exposed as the fools they are. Their actions were nothing more than political opportunism.
    What he said.

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    No it covers all people who took bailout money and taxes their bonuses at 90%.

    Its not just one company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabasco View Post
    Good! Taxing a specific group of people in a specific company at 90% is unconstitutional.
    Only using an extremely liberal definition of the constitution. It's perfectly legitimate for the government to say that if x company is receiving money from x program, then they must submit to special taxes on bonuses. The rate of taxation is irrelevant; there is no constitutional limit on the governments ability to levy an income tax. They could put it at 1000% for children if they wanted to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabasco View Post
    I hope the Congressmen who voted for this, whether Democrat or Republican, are exposed as the fools they are. Their actions were nothing more than political opportunism.
    Yeah, the article isn't about suing to get the bonuses back anyway. Learn reading comprehension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    What he said.
    Agreed. However we must understand and correct the cause of these bonuses for leaders in a failed company. Esp under govt bailout.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    No it covers all people who took bailout money and taxes their bonuses at 90%.

    Its not just one company.
    Haha, who claimed Desh could see the big picture? You are worse than WM's troll.

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    All forms of direct taxation are unconstitutional, considering that the 16th Amendment was never properly ratified in the first place. The Federal government shouldn't be bailing out companies or "stimulating" the economy or any such nonsense. But, as always, liberals and many conservatives are willing to throw the Constitution under the bus when it suits their agenda.

    The ONLY Constitutionally legitimate roles of the Federal government are to provide a common defense and coinage and operate a postal service. That means NO Department of Indoctrination, NO Social Insecurity, NO Mediscare, NO failed War on Drugs, or War on Poverty, or any other wasteful, illegitimate, illegal Federal program.

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    Only idiots think the best thing for the fed to do right now is spend nothing on bailing out the economy. Had the feds let the economy collapse that way, we actually WOULD have a second American revolution instead of just idiot teabaggers gathering in droves to express how retarded they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ib1yysguy View Post
    Had the feds let the economy collapse that way,
    The economy wouldn't have collapsed. In the 19th century, there were no bailouts. Companies went bankrupt, quickly reorganized, or were replaced by other companies. Recessions were very short.

    we actually WOULD have a second American revolution
    Why would that necessarily be a bad thing?

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    Tabasco, if we would have had a second American revolution, do you think the liberarians would have one? The second American revolution would've been by the communist party.
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