Reply With QuoteBTW, don't infer that because I'm frustrated by this disconnect that I support any ban on weapons.
Sweet Jane
Alabama Shooting
This is a great example of what frustrates me about advocates against the assualt rifle ban. The disconnect on the public safety issue that millitary style weapons present when in the hands of unstable persons. This man killed people by indescriminately spraying bullets down a street.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090312/...a_shootings_69
Could reasonable limitations and regulations have served to have protected the public and saved lives in this case?
What can be done about this issue to address public safety?
Asshat isn't always going to be there with his plastic spoon to protect us!!
Sweet Jane
BTW, don't infer that because I'm frustrated by this disconnect that I support any ban on weapons.
What disturbs me most is everyone saying that he was such a "normal guy".
Normal people don't go on killing sprees.
Mott, I am not sure a ban on assault weapons would have changed much. Perhaps his strategy, but not the end result. The two rifles would have been out of the equation, but the shotgun and handgun would still be there. Plus, despite what the sensationalists claim, a typical hunting rifle would be much more dangerous.
The Force is With Me
Isn't it obvious?
All of his victims should have been armed, including the children.
Without all these useless leftist regulations the kids could have gotten off a couple of clips and put a bullet in his ass.
The only way to ensure a safe America is to arm every American. Children should be equipped with the Chinese Uziko 747 that fires 1600 rounds per second, fully automated with a hair trigger. Comes with night scope, laser targeting, and fires Magnum Force 19B armor-piercing rounds that will split a man in half.
2nd Amendment forever
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In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.
rebel
what a bullshit news article and i'm not surprised that it elicited idiotic responses.
Yahoo Associated Press states 2 assault rifles, a shotgun, and a .38 revolver, yet no specific identity of the actual rifles are given. For all we know, it could have been two 10-22 marlin .22 caliber rifles. But no, we have to read 'assault rifle' and "the rapid crackling of automatic gunfire" in the article so that the fucked up liberal media can sensationalize a tragedy by intimating that machine guns are readily available at walmart.
If you don't know the gun laws, stfu and learn them before making an ass of yourself.
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
Sweet Jane
There is some truth to what your saying but 3 of those people were killed by his just randomly spraying the street with bullets. I think those lives might have been saved.Originally Posted by Solitary
I'm not advocating a ban on anything per se so much as advocating a discussion on public safety and what can be done to prevent the abuse of these weapons which were designed specifically to kill people.
Should there be greater regulation on their sales and manufactur? Licensing requirements for those who wish to purchase these? Background and criminal checks? I'm open to ideas here.
Sweet Jane
Well I can see you have much of productive value to contribute to this conversation. [/sarcasm]
If there were more regulations and licencing requirements, would anything have been different?
The guy was an adult, never been in trouble, had police training, and had no addiction problems that we know about.
Wouldn't this guy be pretty much what the regulations would give a gun to?
Sweet Jane
Good point, but are you saying there's nothing we can do to prevent such things from occuring?
How can we strike a balance here in preserrving 2nd ammendment rights while preserving public safety?
rebel
seriously mottley, the same amount of damage could have been done with a semi-auto .308 hunting rifle with a full magazine, in fact, it would have been worse being a bigger round than something from an AR-15.
without the particulars on the type of rifle used, this article is over dramatized.
Yes, it's a damned tragedy, but really there are two questions to answer.
1) would another law have prevented this?
2) would a ban on assault weapons have prevented this?
the answer to both is no.
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
Sweet Jane
Great questions, but could you expand upon the answers?
Verified User
anything that sprays or shots rapidly should be banned.
Only morons think otherwise
The stone that the builder refused
Will always be the head corner stone
I don't think there is anything we can do to prevent this sort of thing from happening. I think a free society is an inherently dangerous place.
Unless the person confides his plans to someone, there would be no basis for disarming or arresting the person.
Charles Whitman killed 14 and wounded 32 from the clock tower on the campus of the Univ of Texas. He did have a semiautomatic rifle, but it was an M1. An M1 is hardly a threatening assault rifle. He did most of his killing with the other 2 rifles and the sawed-off shotgun.
rebel
whats the difference between these two weapons?
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
rebel
an even better question to ask is why was the damage and body count so small, given his location?
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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