judge may allow the men Kyle Rittenhouse shot to be called 'rioters' or 'looters'

[zymurgy]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/27/us/ky...ogy/index.html

This is going to go very well for the defense

[zymurgy]

"Let the evidence show what the evidence shows, that any or one of these people were engaged in arson, rioting or looting, then I'm not going to tell the defense they can't call them that," Kenosha County Circuit Judge Bruce Schroeder said during the pre-trial hearing.
Schroeder has had a longstanding rule of not allowing prosecutors to refer to people as "victims"

[Guno צְבִי]

On Monday, a Wisconsin judge ruled that Kyle Rittenhouse's defense team will be allowed to refer to the teen's shooting victims as "rioters," "looters," or "arsonists" during the upcoming trial.
The lawyers will be allowed to use these terms so long as they provide evidence backing those claims,

The term "victim" is commonly banned during court trials across the country "because it implies that a crime was committed and could therefore prejudice a jury against a defendant."


Schroeder also noted that prosecutors are allowed to use equally as harsh language to refer to Rittenhouse, such as "cold-blooded killer," as they provide evidence to back up those terms.

[AProudLefty]

Any competent prosecutor can easily tear that apart.

[zymurgy]

On Monday, a Wisconsin judge ruled that Kyle Rittenhouse's defense team will be allowed to refer to the teen's shooting victims as "rioters," "looters," or "arsonists" during the upcoming trial.
The lawyers will be allowed to use these terms so long as they provide evidence backing those claims,

The term "victim" is commonly banned during court trials across the country "because it implies that a crime was committed and could therefore prejudice a jury against a defendant."


Schroeder also noted that prosecutors are allowed to use equally as harsh language to refer to Rittenhouse, such as "cold-blooded killer," as they provide evidence to back up those terms.

your quote mine is inaccurate - likely intentional

If prosecutors can try to portray Rittenhouse as “a cold-blooded killer,” then his defense should be free to “call someone a rioter,” the judge said

He did not say they can call him a "cold blooded killer", only portray him as such - which is what the charges claim

[SmarterthanYou]

they need to be called instigators and perpetrators for their attempted assaults on rittenhouse

[AProudLefty]

they need to be called instigators and perpetrators for their attempted assaults on rittenhouse

LOL.

[AProudLefty]

your quote mine is inaccurate - likely intentional

If prosecutors can try to portray Rittenhouse as “a cold-blooded killer,” then his defense should be free to “call someone a rioter,” the judge said

He did not say they can call him a "cold blooded killer", only portray him as such - which is what the charges claim

And that will not work with the jury. It can be easily torn apart.

[Hoosier Daddy]

they need to be called instigators and perpetrators for their attempted assaults on rittenhouse

they need to be remembered as victims of a punk ass bitch gun nut who should not have had an assault weapon on his feeble ass in the first place. i hope he gets at least 50 years.

[zymurgy]

And that will not work with the jury. It can be easily torn apart.

you do not speak for the jury in Wisconsin.

the point here is the judge appears sympathetic to the defense - which bodes well for the defense

[zymurgy]

they need to be remembered as victims of a punk ass bitch gun nut who should not have had an assault weapon on his feeble ass in the first place. i hope he gets at least 50 years.

cuckoo

[zymurgy]

sadly, the jury will not know that one of the criminals shot dead is a scumbag pedophile

[AProudLefty]

you do not speak for the jury in Wisconsin.

the point here is the judge appears sympathetic to the defense - which bodes well for the defense

Are you telling me that people in Wisconsin are dumb?

[zymurgy]

Are you telling me that people in Wisconsin are dumb?

no, but I am implying you are

[Guno צְבִי]

On Aug. 25, the third night of protests, Rittenhouse, then 17, made the short trip from his home in Illinois across the state line, armed with an AR-15-style rifle, in response to a call from a Kenosha-based militia group saying it hoped to protect businesses from protesters.

That night, in a set of chaotic confrontations with protesters, Rittenhouse shot several people, killing two, Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber, and wounding a third, Gaige Grosskreutz.

Binger asked the judge to disallow a video that was shared widely on social media showing police encountering Rittenhouse roughly 15 minutes before the shootings, tossing him a bottle of water and saying, "We appreciate you guys."

But Chirafisi convinced the judge that the video is relevant to understanding Rittenhouse's state of mind, which is relevant to several of the charges he faces.

First-degree reckless endangerment of safety, for instance, requires prosecutors to demonstrate that Rittenhouse acted with "utter disregard for human life."

"If ... police tell him, 'It's a good thing you people are here,' given the state of lawlessness that's existing, is that something that's influencing the defendant and emboldening him in his behavior?" the judge said. "[That] would seem to me to be an argument for relevance."

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/26/10494...rs-judge-ruled