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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Maybe. In 2016 trump was the exception to the rule but by 2018 people started to regain their senses after two years of his bungling.
    I go by the odds and they favor republicans taking control of the house in 2023. Young folk and Black folk will not be fooled into voting for a party that mandates vaccines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goat View Post
    I go by the odds and they favor republicans taking control of the house in 2023. Young folk and Black folk will not be fooled into voting for a party that mandates vaccines.
    Your an idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    It certainly seems that way. I dot give a crap who the messenger is if the message makes perfect sense so please don't deflect.
    It seems that way to me too. Cenk Uygur is a complete and utter moron, as pretty much everything that comes out of his mouth is pure liberal lunacy at its finest, however he is not wrong on the fact that "both parties" (the Uniparty) are playing us for fools.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    If Democrats don’t undo giant tax cuts Trump gave the wealthy and corporations, that means they are also in favor of them! That’s a fact. They have the power to do it and they won’t. You see how this shell game is played so both parties rob us blind while pretending to disagree.
    Where Cenk is a moron here is claiming that Trump gave "the wealthy and corporations" tax cuts. Trump actually gave EVERYONE (who pays taxes) tax cuts.

    You will notice, if you pay close enough attention to word selection, that liberals always make use of the word "corporations" whenever they wish to attack larger businesses (such as Wal-Mart) for something (such as "the rich" "getting richer", and the "poor and middle class" "getting poorer"), yet they will always make use of the word "companies" whenever they wish to ally with such businesses and support them, usually when they are wishing to implement tyrannical mandates/regulations in order to harm smaller businesses.

    Where Cenk is a bit more intelligent here is in his slight realization that the Demonkkkrat Party and the Republican Party (now controlled by RINOs, aka Demonkkkrats) are "one of the same" (aka "the Uniparty") and just put on good theater for the gullible/uninformed masses. Trump's presidency was a godsend with regard to the clear exposure of this unsettling truth.

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    Republicans are racist fascists. They prove it here every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    It certainly seems that way. I dot give a crap who the messenger is if the message makes perfect sense so please don't deflect.

    If Democrats don’t undo giant tax cuts Trump gave the wealthy and corporations, that means they are also in favor of them! That’s a fact. They have the power to do it and they won’t. You see how this shell game is played so both parties rob us blind while pretending to disagree.

    Democrats take money from anybody, just like everyone else, but when things get to the floor of Congress, the pols usually vote on straight party lines, 180º opposite of one another.

    That kind of takes care of the "They're all the same" theory.

    The problem is that vast over-representation for rural states prevents enough Democrats being elected to get anything done.
    The framers fucked up totally, but it's hard to get many urban Democrats [ who aren't me ] to admit it. And now gerrymandering makes it even worse.
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    Hello evince,

    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Oh I agree my friend


    My point is keep hammering


    Cheating will end as long as we keep hammering
    I am glad you agree steps must be taken to end corruption.

    That must be done and the American Anti-Corruption Act must be passed at local levels and then at State levels before we can have any hope of finally passing a national anti-corruption act.

    It is a long journey which must be undertaken, and every journey begins with the first step. The first step at this point is making people aware of the solution and spreading the understanding that this process is the only way it is going to happen.

    We have no hope of expecting those on the receiving end of a corrupt system to change that system.

    It must be done from our end.

    It has to begin with we the people.
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    Pollyanna has it nailed. Anti-corruption laws enforced by corrupt agencies should take care of all of our problems.
    Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
    Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Pollyanna has it nailed. Anti-corruption laws enforced by corrupt agencies should take care of all of our problems.
    That may be cynical, but pretty damn funny nonetheless.

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    Hello evince,

    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Russia will kill putin in the end



    Imagine what a post putin Russia looks like?
    It will certainly take his death to do it.

    And Trump wants the same thing. President-for-life.

    I think he should get life in another government institution.
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    Hello evince,

    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Repair the voting system to reflect the true will of the people and we will fix everything


    Democracy works


    It’s why putin hates it so much


    And China too
    But we can't really do that until we fix corruption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Who do you think is standing in the way of the repeal of the giant tax cuts? If Democrats had the numbers it clearly would be repealed.
    Baloney!

    Democrats have spent years promising to repeal the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which Republicans passed without a single Democratic vote and was estimated to cost nearly $2 trillion over a decade. President Biden said during a presidential debate in September that he was “going to eliminate the Trump tax cuts.”

    Mr. Biden is now in the White House, and his party controls both chambers of Congress. Yet he and his aides are committing to only a partial rollback of the law, with their focus on provisions that help corporations and the very rich. It’s a position that Mr. Biden held throughout the campaign, and that he clarified in the September debate by promising to only partly repeal a corporate rate cut.

    https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2021...manent-n379529



    All BS to begin with. "Nothing will fundamentally change" is what Biden said to his corporate donors and exactly what he meant.

    Enduring Legacy

    Trump’s tax law could end up being one of his most enduring policy legacies -- transitioning the U.S. from having one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world to one of the lowest, after years of squabbling in Congress over how to address business taxation.

    Republicans say that the overhaul made the country more competitive, while critics have said it didn’t generate the promised economic growth and investment, and largely helped wealthy donors and corporate shareholders -- deepening inequality.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ats-drop-plans
    And this is how the shell game is played.
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    Let’s face it, guys: We’re done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    you can blame the filibuster RULE on political parties, like democrats and republicans.......

    you really should educate yourself first before trying to comment on others intelligence levels
    LOL. Nice dodge
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    you obviously aren't understanding it because we currently have 'one person one vote'...........for all those that are qualified to vote in their state, anyway
    We have an electoral college that negates one person one vote
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    We have an electoral college that negates one person one vote
    no, it does not, no matter how badly you need to believe it.............
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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