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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    The relative experience of armorer is opinion. Baldwin has no liability. They are insured.
    INSURANCE WILL NOT PAY

    Since a live round was on set...thats a no no!

    An insurer would likely cover any accidental events but the company might not pay for negligence claims on a movie set, according to Julie Shapiro, law professor and director of Loyola Law School’s Entertainment and Media Law Institute.

    The insurance company will do its own investigation, Shapiro said, to determine if negligence occurred. The exact wording of the policy will determine what the company would pay.

    negligence occurred with the live round being on set

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    INSURANCE WILL NOT PAY

    Since a live round was on set...thats a no no!



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    Why would they not pay? Accidents are covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Why would they not pay? Accidents are covered.
    negligence occurred with the live round being on set


    will ins pay for house fire caused by gross negligence

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    negligence occurred with the live round being on set


    will ins pay for house fire caused by gross negligence
    Will ins pay for a guest who suffered injuries from house fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Will ins pay for a guest who suffered injuries from house fire?
    caused by gross negligence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    caused by gross negligence?
    Yes. Do the auto insurance pay for the damages to others caused by a driver through gross negligence?

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    “They hired someone who was insufficiently experienced,” Wolf says. “If he’s the producer, the buck stops with him.”

    The killer, Baldwin fired the fatal shot.

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    Dershowitz asserts at The Hill that “two things” seem clear in the incident: “guidelines seem not to have been followed in this case, and the existing guidelines seem insufficient to prevent accidents like this.”

    “It is likely, therefore, that the killing of Halyna Hutchins could constitute a homicide — that is, a criminal killing,” he said. “The remaining questions are who might be criminally responsible for the killing and what degree of homicide fits the evidence?”

    https://feedy.news/us/famed-lawyer-a...ide-13797.html



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    The killer, Baldwin, is probably hiding his assets, as we speak.

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    Let’s hear from a world famous lawyer, not some far left loons:

    Alan Dershowitz Says It’s ‘Likely’ On-Set Hutchins Killing A ‘Homicide’

    The on-set killing of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins likely constitutes “homicide,” or a criminal killing, famed lawyer Alan Dershowitz explained in an opinion piece published Sunday

    The on-set killing of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins likely constitutes “homicide,” or a criminal killing, famed lawyer Alan Dershowitz explained in an opinion piece published Sunday.

    Actor and co-producer Alec Baldwin on Thursday shot Hutchins and director Joel Souza while on the film set for “Rust,” killing Hutchins and wounding Souza. According to a court document, Baldwin was told he was handed a “cold gun” before firing at the camera, striking the two crew members. It still remains unclear if the “live round” was real ammunition.

    Dershowitz asserts at The Hill that “two things” seem clear in the incident: “guidelines seem not to have been followed in this case, and the existing guidelines seem insufficient to prevent accidents like this.”

    “It is likely, therefore, that the killing of Halyna Hutchins could constitute a homicide — that is, a criminal killing,” he said. “The remaining questions are who might be criminally responsible for the killing and what degree of homicide fits the evidence?”

    https://feedy.news/us/famed-lawyer-a...ide-13797.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Funny how the MAGA militia has a hard on for anyone who publicly embarrassed Trump

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    If Baldwin was in overall charge of production and before the incident people were quitting because of lax security he bears some of the responsibility, it seems to me. It's wrong to accuse him because of politics and it's wrong because of politics to look the other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Funny how the MAGA militia has a hard on for anyone who publicly embarrassed Trump

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    Yeah, I wonder what they'd be saying if fucking Ted Nugent accidentally shot and killed someone.
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    “We’re at a time in American politics, that I am not going to lie on behalf of my presidential candidate, on behalf of my party. And I’m very sad that others in my party have taken the position that, as long as we get the White House, it doesn’t really matter what we say,”



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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    INSURANCE WILL NOT PAY

    Since a live round was on set...thats a no no!



    negligence occurred with the live round being on set

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    There is a simple solution for the production company; file for bankruptcy. Wait for 6 months, then start up a new company (LLC).
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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    There’s no denying Alec Baldwin’s role in on-set shooting tragedy


    “They hired someone who was insufficiently experienced,” Wolf says. “If he’s the producer, the buck stops with him.”



    “If you’re capable of memorizing 120 pages of dialogue, you can memorize four lines of gun safety,” special effects and firearms expert Steve Wolf tells The Post.

    “If that scene required him to put the gun to his head and pull the trigger, I’m sure he would have taken a look inside the gun. Wouldn’t you?”


    If fact, Chacon goes over the four basic rules of guns on sets so often that his actors roll their eyes. He takes this as a sign to keep going, because they’ve heard it all before, they know the rules, and still they listen:

    Treat EVERY weapon as if it’s loaded, even if you’re told it isn’t.
    NEVER point a gun at anything you’re not willing to kill or destroy.
    Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to kill or destroy something.
    Know where your target is and what’s behind it (where possible).


    Yet on “Rust,” we know seven crew members walked off set the morning Hutchins was killed — and they walked over safety concerns. During production, someone rang the alarm to the unit production manager, texting, “We’ve now had 3 accidental discharges. This is super unsafe.”


    Wolf tells The Post that the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office has reached out to him about helping its investigation.

    “Everything I find will probably point to negligence,” Wolf says. “Gross negligence, possibly criminal negligence. The armorer didn’t have the experience to command a set. You have a gun, a bullet, someone aiming it, and someone firing it. So it was inevitable if you bring together those ingredients.”



    https://nypost.com/2021/10/25/no-den...ishap-tragedy/
    Let's talk about Alec Baldwin and never letting a crisis go to waste....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    “They hired someone who was insufficiently experienced,” Wolf says. “If he’s the producer, the buck stops with him.”

    The killer, Baldwin fired the fatal shot.
    An interesting if someone deluded argument. The executive producer doesn't hire the crew. Most movies have multiple executive producers. It is the line producer or production manager that is responsible for the initial hirings of department heads. Those department heads then hire many of the leads. In turn the leads may be responsible for hiring the general crew members. Producers are not involved in day to day operations on set during filming and most of them would never show up on set.
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