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    There’s no denying Alec Baldwin’s role in on-set shooting tragedy


    “They hired someone who was insufficiently experienced,” Wolf says. “If he’s the producer, the buck stops with him.”



    “If you’re capable of memorizing 120 pages of dialogue, you can memorize four lines of gun safety,” special effects and firearms expert Steve Wolf tells The Post.

    “If that scene required him to put the gun to his head and pull the trigger, I’m sure he would have taken a look inside the gun. Wouldn’t you?”


    If fact, Chacon goes over the four basic rules of guns on sets so often that his actors roll their eyes. He takes this as a sign to keep going, because they’ve heard it all before, they know the rules, and still they listen:

    Treat EVERY weapon as if it’s loaded, even if you’re told it isn’t.
    NEVER point a gun at anything you’re not willing to kill or destroy.
    Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to kill or destroy something.
    Know where your target is and what’s behind it (where possible).


    Yet on “Rust,” we know seven crew members walked off set the morning Hutchins was killed — and they walked over safety concerns. During production, someone rang the alarm to the unit production manager, texting, “We’ve now had 3 accidental discharges. This is super unsafe.”


    Wolf tells The Post that the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office has reached out to him about helping its investigation.

    “Everything I find will probably point to negligence,” Wolf says. “Gross negligence, possibly criminal negligence. The armorer didn’t have the experience to command a set. You have a gun, a bullet, someone aiming it, and someone firing it. So it was inevitable if you bring together those ingredients.”



    https://nypost.com/2021/10/25/no-den...ishap-tragedy/

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    Funny how the MAGA militia has a hard on for anyone who publicly embarrassed Trump

    So blame him if it makes you happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Funny how the MAGA militia has a hard on for anyone who publicly embarrassed Trump

    So blame him if it makes you happy

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    In-fucking-credible, isn't it.

    If this were someone who kissed Trump's ass like they do...they would be slavering all over the place defending him.

    Baldwin was an actor who was given a prop...told it was a cold-gun...and pulled the trigger as the script called for...and in the direction the director/cinematographer/continuity people instructed.

    But...these assholes need something to stop them from thinking about the disgusting, fat-assed blob they continue to support...and the traitorous acts they are committing in his name.

    So as you said, Archives...

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Funny how the MAGA militia has a hard on for anyone who publicly embarrassed Trump

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    Nope we have a hard on that some goddamn fucking cheap ass idiot POS that killed someone be punished!

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    I bet Fauci had a hand in it.

    Or it could be another Clinton job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    I bet Fauci had a hand in it.

    Or it could be another Clinton job.
    Actually you're right. Dr. Fauci threatened to torture his dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    In-fucking-credible, isn't it.

    If this were someone who kissed Trump's ass like they do...they would be slavering all over the place defending him.

    Baldwin was an actor who was given a prop...told it was a cold-gun...and pulled the trigger as the script called for...and in the direction the director/cinematographer/continuity people instructed.

    But...these assholes need something to stop them from thinking about the disgusting, fat-assed blob they continue to support...and the traitorous acts they are committing in his name.

    So as you said, Archives...

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    It happened between takes while he was playing quick draw Barney Fife




    Baldwin was “sitting in a pew in a church building setting, and he was practicing a cross draw.”

    That line from search warrant documents filed by the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office captures the precise moment before a prop gun from the set of the Old West movie Rust went off in the actor’s hand on October 21, striking and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounding writer-director Joel Souza.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood...hutchins-death



    Did the director/cinematographer tell him to play quick draw Barney between takes? Or did he do that all on his own?


    He was sitting and playing with his gun between takes
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    I wish conservatives cared about a pandemic and the planet as much as they care about a guy who poked fun at Trump....

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    Gun That Killed Halyna Hutchins Was Used That VERY Morning for Live-Ammo Target Practice

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    Send him to prison and document it

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Gun That Killed Halyna Hutchins Was Used That VERY Morning for Live-Ammo Target Practice
    Yep. I have already said that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    There’s no denying Alec Baldwin’s role in on-set shooting tragedy


    “They hired someone who was insufficiently experienced,” Wolf says. “If he’s the producer, the buck stops with him.”



    “If you’re capable of memorizing 120 pages of dialogue, you can memorize four lines of gun safety,” special effects and firearms expert Steve Wolf tells The Post.

    “If that scene required him to put the gun to his head and pull the trigger, I’m sure he would have taken a look inside the gun. Wouldn’t you?”


    If fact, Chacon goes over the four basic rules of guns on sets so often that his actors roll their eyes. He takes this as a sign to keep going, because they’ve heard it all before, they know the rules, and still they listen:

    Treat EVERY weapon as if it’s loaded, even if you’re told it isn’t.
    NEVER point a gun at anything you’re not willing to kill or destroy.
    Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to kill or destroy something.
    Know where your target is and what’s behind it (where possible).


    Yet on “Rust,” we know seven crew members walked off set the morning Hutchins was killed — and they walked over safety concerns. During production, someone rang the alarm to the unit production manager, texting, “We’ve now had 3 accidental discharges. This is super unsafe.”


    Wolf tells The Post that the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office has reached out to him about helping its investigation.

    “Everything I find will probably point to negligence,” Wolf says. “Gross negligence, possibly criminal negligence. The armorer didn’t have the experience to command a set. You have a gun, a bullet, someone aiming it, and someone firing it. So it was inevitable if you bring together those ingredients.”



    https://nypost.com/2021/10/25/no-den...ishap-tragedy/
    bullshit. producers do not micromanage that shit, especially a known star WHO IS STARRING IN THE MOVIE!!! what in the hell would he know about guns and lighting and cameras and set design, you fucking moron? you chickenshit bitches can cry about a democrat in a movie pretending to shoot a gun he was told was safe AT A CAMERA going off, and want to put him in jail, but want to blow Kyle Rittenhouse, a 17 year old gun nut wanna be bad ass, for illegally taking an assault weapon to a protest and then killing two unarmed men and blowing the arm off of another.

    you are sick ass punk bitches who need your ass kicked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    It happened between takes while he was playing quick draw Barney Fife




    Baldwin was “sitting in a pew in a church building setting, and he was practicing a cross draw.”

    That line from search warrant documents filed by the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office captures the precise moment before a prop gun from the set of the Old West movie Rust went off in the actor’s hand on October 21, striking and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounding writer-director Joel Souza.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood...hutchins-death



    Did the director/cinematographer tell him to play quick draw Barney between takes? Or did he do that all on his own?


    He was sitting and playing with his gun between takes
    You certainly invented a lot here from the link citation you furnished.

    Rehearsals and practices of gun draws are SOP for a set. Yes, a director would order a rehearsal...and practice of a unique kind of gun draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    There’s no denying Alec Baldwin’s role in on-set shooting tragedy


    “They hired someone who was insufficiently experienced,” Wolf says. “If he’s the producer, the buck stops with him.”



    “If you’re capable of memorizing 120 pages of dialogue, you can memorize four lines of gun safety,” special effects and firearms expert Steve Wolf tells The Post.

    “If that scene required him to put the gun to his head and pull the trigger, I’m sure he would have taken a look inside the gun. Wouldn’t you?”


    If fact, Chacon goes over the four basic rules of guns on sets so often that his actors roll their eyes. He takes this as a sign to keep going, because they’ve heard it all before, they know the rules, and still they listen:

    Treat EVERY weapon as if it’s loaded, even if you’re told it isn’t.
    NEVER point a gun at anything you’re not willing to kill or destroy.
    Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to kill or destroy something.
    Know where your target is and what’s behind it (where possible).


    Yet on “Rust,” we know seven crew members walked off set the morning Hutchins was killed — and they walked over safety concerns. During production, someone rang the alarm to the unit production manager, texting, “We’ve now had 3 accidental discharges. This is super unsafe.”


    Wolf tells The Post that the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office has reached out to him about helping its investigation.

    “Everything I find will probably point to negligence,” Wolf says. “Gross negligence, possibly criminal negligence. The armorer didn’t have the experience to command a set. You have a gun, a bullet, someone aiming it, and someone firing it. So it was inevitable if you bring together those ingredients.”



    https://nypost.com/2021/10/25/no-den...ishap-tragedy/
    The relative experience of armorer is opinion. Baldwin has no liability. They are insured.

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    Let’s hear from a world famous lawyer, not some far left loons:

    Alan Dershowitz Says It’s ‘Likely’ On-Set Hutchins Killing A ‘Homicide’

    The on-set killing of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins likely constitutes “homicide,” or a criminal killing, famed lawyer Alan Dershowitz explained in an opinion piece published Sunday

    The on-set killing of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins likely constitutes “homicide,” or a criminal killing, famed lawyer Alan Dershowitz explained in an opinion piece published Sunday.

    Actor and co-producer Alec Baldwin on Thursday shot Hutchins and director Joel Souza while on the film set for “Rust,” killing Hutchins and wounding Souza. According to a court document, Baldwin was told he was handed a “cold gun” before firing at the camera, striking the two crew members. It still remains unclear if the “live round” was real ammunition.

    Dershowitz asserts at The Hill that “two things” seem clear in the incident: “guidelines seem not to have been followed in this case, and the existing guidelines seem insufficient to prevent accidents like this.”

    “It is likely, therefore, that the killing of Halyna Hutchins could constitute a homicide — that is, a criminal killing,” he said. “The remaining questions are who might be criminally responsible for the killing and what degree of homicide fits the evidence?”

    https://feedy.news/us/famed-lawyer-a...ide-13797.html

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