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    "I find myself in the position that I must use an alias for fear of reprisal. Those days may be quickly coming to an end, as hospitals are denying requests for vaccine exemptions with impunity. I will likely soon be out the door, with nothing to lose. Even if I survive this round, if the “pandemic” continues, it won’t be long before I am shelved like a can of spam.

    Doctors need to be called out. From early in the pandemic, it was like a mass hypnosis or forgetfulness of everything we had learned in medical school. Immune system knowledge was shelved and replaced by government dictates. The thought of early outpatient treatment with “off label” drugs that could modulate the immune system was forbidden. We essentially told patients that they had to go home and wait until they were sick enough to be hospitalized, then treatment would begin. Imagine telling all diabetics that there is no metformin, Glucophage, or insulin. Would we really wait until patients are in diabetic ketoacidosis, and then treat them only at the hospital? It is medical malfeasance of a grand scale.

    We physicians gave up our training and our reasonable medical thought process. The reasons are multiple. First, it was the easy way out. Second, many of us are employed and fear reprisal. Third, despite what the public thinks, we physicians are not bold leaders, we tend to be sheep, and are afraid of having an entire institution ostracize us or our colleagues to think us crazy.

    As we got to the point of vaccine rollout, doctors were not using the scientific method, questioning and challenging prevailing hypotheses. They kept their heads down, closed clinics, converted to telemedicine, and pushed only the jab.

    I had conversations with doctors who are supposed experts in virology and immunology denying the lasting immunity of natural infection. Conversations about natural immunity:

    “I have antibodies.”
    “But they will wane.”
    “But I have memory cells.”

    Dumbfounded look.

    Really, are these the leaders we want?

    Other conversations about the safety of vaccines:

    “The vaccine is safe.”
    “No, we would have shut down any trial in the past after even 100 deaths.”
    “This is more serious.”
    “But the survival rate is about 99.6%.”
    “It's killing people.”
    “So is the vaccine”
    “You can’t believe VAERS.”
    “It was set up to help protect the public, and if anything, it is underreporting side effects.”
    “You’re a conspiracy theorist.”

    Or conversations about early treatment

    “You must get the vaccine, it is the only “proven” treatment, there are no other treatments.”
    “Really, ivermectin has eradicated COVID in India, parts of Mexico, Japan….”
    “It is a horse dewormer.”
    “It won a Nobel Prize in medicine, is a WHO essential drug, and has been around for decades with a great safety profile.”
    “No, only the vaccine works.”
    “But it is failing”
    “You are a denier and a conspiracy theorist.”

    Lately, it has been all about getting 100% of the population jabbed. For what reason? I am not sure, and some of the more detailed and investigated theories scare me. I shudder to think. But last year’s heroes are being labeled selfish and villainous for not getting the vaccine. Hospital systems have abandoned their community’s health and ignored early successful outpatient treatment in favor of huge government subsidies for inpatient and ICU treatment. The success of these treatments was not great, but that is another article. Now we have the same hospital systems turning their backs on their own employees. Basically, health providers have a choice, get shot, or get fired. How does that help? Both vaxxed and unvaxxed can spread the virus, so it doesn’t help anyone. It only helps the hospital to get more government money by meeting quotas.

    I, for one, will remember that when we faced a real crisis, the hospitals and many physicians chose money and profit over their own community’s best interest. Perhaps it is time for groups of physicians to get back to running their own healthcare clinics and hospitals. We used to have a code of ethics. We used to put patients first. Not anymore.

    As for physicians, those who are blindly following the government edicts are culpable in a moral atrocity. Bullying and deriding patients who chose to refrain from this still experimental therapy is an abomination. (You will say it isn’t experimental anymore, to which I would say that just because the government broke its own rules regarding approval, doesn’t make it legal or right). Patients have sincere beliefs for making their choice. Respect their thoughts. Do you yell as much at smokers, drinkers, fornicators, drug abusers, etc? No, I think not. I think you chose to fit in because it gives you a sense of righteousness.

    And going so far as to encourage vaccination in children and pregnant women is crazy. There is blood on the hands of any physician who does this. With children, there is no benefit to the vaccine, only harm. They would serve themselves and society better with natural immunity. The vaccine hasn’t been studied on women and their babies. It is pregnancy category X (unknown) but being pushed wholesale on these poor women without proper studies. Shame on you, doctors who are doing this. I certainly have lots to answer for when I meet my maker, but this is on another level.

    I beg physicians to get back to basics, remember all the epidemiology and immunology that bored us to tears in school. Investigate the real literature and take a stand. Society needs us to do this. Even if you have been vaccinated, help those who are fighting for their lives. Stand up against this forced vaccine tyranny. Support those who have legitimate reasons for declining the jab. If you don’t stand up now, who will stand up for you when you are faced with your choice of yet another booster or your job."

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    This is the direct result of socialized medicine, in the case of this country Medicare/Medicaid.
    The govt owns the checkbook the medical business relies on for a huge chunk of its income.
    So when govt says jump, they ask how high...
    on the way up.

    I suggest looking for work in a concierge medical practice. Solves a lot of these problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    "I find myself in the position that I must use an alias for fear of reprisal. Those days may be quickly coming to an end, as hospitals are denying requests for vaccine exemptions with impunity. I will likely soon be out the door, with nothing to lose. Even if I survive this round, if the “pandemic” continues, it won’t be long before I am shelved like a can of spam.

    Doctors need to be called out. From early in the pandemic, it was like a mass hypnosis or forgetfulness of everything we had learned in medical school. Immune system knowledge was shelved and replaced by government dictates. The thought of early outpatient treatment with “off label” drugs that could modulate the immune system was forbidden. We essentially told patients that they had to go home and wait until they were sick enough to be hospitalized, then treatment would begin. Imagine telling all diabetics that there is no metformin, Glucophage, or insulin. Would we really wait until patients are in diabetic ketoacidosis, and then treat them only at the hospital? It is medical malfeasance of a grand scale.

    We physicians gave up our training and our reasonable medical thought process. The reasons are multiple. First, it was the easy way out. Second, many of us are employed and fear reprisal. Third, despite what the public thinks, we physicians are not bold leaders, we tend to be sheep, and are afraid of having an entire institution ostracize us or our colleagues to think us crazy.

    As we got to the point of vaccine rollout, doctors were not using the scientific method, questioning and challenging prevailing hypotheses. They kept their heads down, closed clinics, converted to telemedicine, and pushed only the jab.

    I had conversations with doctors who are supposed experts in virology and immunology denying the lasting immunity of natural infection. Conversations about natural immunity:

    “I have antibodies.”
    “But they will wane.”
    “But I have memory cells.”

    Dumbfounded look.

    Really, are these the leaders we want?

    Other conversations about the safety of vaccines:

    “The vaccine is safe.”
    “No, we would have shut down any trial in the past after even 100 deaths.”
    “This is more serious.”
    “But the survival rate is about 99.6%.”
    “It's killing people.”
    “So is the vaccine”
    “You can’t believe VAERS.”
    “It was set up to help protect the public, and if anything, it is underreporting side effects.”
    “You’re a conspiracy theorist.”

    Or conversations about early treatment

    “You must get the vaccine, it is the only “proven” treatment, there are no other treatments.”
    “Really, ivermectin has eradicated COVID in India, parts of Mexico, Japan….”
    “It is a horse dewormer.”
    “It won a Nobel Prize in medicine, is a WHO essential drug, and has been around for decades with a great safety profile.”
    “No, only the vaccine works.”
    “But it is failing”
    “You are a denier and a conspiracy theorist.”

    Lately, it has been all about getting 100% of the population jabbed. For what reason? I am not sure, and some of the more detailed and investigated theories scare me. I shudder to think. But last year’s heroes are being labeled selfish and villainous for not getting the vaccine. Hospital systems have abandoned their community’s health and ignored early successful outpatient treatment in favor of huge government subsidies for inpatient and ICU treatment. The success of these treatments was not great, but that is another article. Now we have the same hospital systems turning their backs on their own employees. Basically, health providers have a choice, get shot, or get fired. How does that help? Both vaxxed and unvaxxed can spread the virus, so it doesn’t help anyone. It only helps the hospital to get more government money by meeting quotas.

    I, for one, will remember that when we faced a real crisis, the hospitals and many physicians chose money and profit over their own community’s best interest. Perhaps it is time for groups of physicians to get back to running their own healthcare clinics and hospitals. We used to have a code of ethics. We used to put patients first. Not anymore.

    As for physicians, those who are blindly following the government edicts are culpable in a moral atrocity. Bullying and deriding patients who chose to refrain from this still experimental therapy is an abomination. (You will say it isn’t experimental anymore, to which I would say that just because the government broke its own rules regarding approval, doesn’t make it legal or right). Patients have sincere beliefs for making their choice. Respect their thoughts. Do you yell as much at smokers, drinkers, fornicators, drug abusers, etc? No, I think not. I think you chose to fit in because it gives you a sense of righteousness.

    And going so far as to encourage vaccination in children and pregnant women is crazy. There is blood on the hands of any physician who does this. With children, there is no benefit to the vaccine, only harm. They would serve themselves and society better with natural immunity. The vaccine hasn’t been studied on women and their babies. It is pregnancy category X (unknown) but being pushed wholesale on these poor women without proper studies. Shame on you, doctors who are doing this. I certainly have lots to answer for when I meet my maker, but this is on another level.

    I beg physicians to get back to basics, remember all the epidemiology and immunology that bored us to tears in school. Investigate the real literature and take a stand. Society needs us to do this. Even if you have been vaccinated, help those who are fighting for their lives. Stand up against this forced vaccine tyranny. Support those who have legitimate reasons for declining the jab. If you don’t stand up now, who will stand up for you when you are faced with your choice of yet another booster or your job."

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    This proves that there are still a lot of quacks in medicine. He finishes last in his class, but they still call him doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    This proves that there are still a lot of quacks in medicine. He finishes last in his class, but they still call him doctor.
    I've seen a vegetarian that's a butcher. So yeah, you can find anomalies in most things. It's also from American Thinker which is a contradiction to what they put out.

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    We have been betrayed by the medical system.

    Buckle Up Fuckers.

    I warned Ya.
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    "I find myself in the position that I must use an alias for fear of reprisal. Those days may be quickly coming to an end, as hospitals are denying requests for vaccine exemptions with impunity. I will likely soon be out the door, with nothing to lose. Even if I survive this round, if the “pandemic” continues, it won’t be long before I am shelved like a can of spam.

    Doctors need to be called out. From early in the pandemic, it was like a mass hypnosis or forgetfulness of everything we had learned in medical school. Immune system knowledge was shelved and replaced by government dictates. The thought of early outpatient treatment with “off label” drugs that could modulate the immune system was forbidden. We essentially told patients that they had to go home and wait until they were sick enough to be hospitalized, then treatment would begin. Imagine telling all diabetics that there is no metformin, Glucophage, or insulin. Would we really wait until patients are in diabetic ketoacidosis, and then treat them only at the hospital? It is medical malfeasance of a grand scale.

    We physicians gave up our training and our reasonable medical thought process. The reasons are multiple. First, it was the easy way out. Second, many of us are employed and fear reprisal. Third, despite what the public thinks, we physicians are not bold leaders, we tend to be sheep, and are afraid of having an entire institution ostracize us or our colleagues to think us crazy.

    As we got to the point of vaccine rollout, doctors were not using the scientific method, questioning and challenging prevailing hypotheses. They kept their heads down, closed clinics, converted to telemedicine, and pushed only the jab.

    I had conversations with doctors who are supposed experts in virology and immunology denying the lasting immunity of natural infection. Conversations about natural immunity:

    “I have antibodies.”
    “But they will wane.”
    “But I have memory cells.”

    Dumbfounded look.

    Really, are these the leaders we want?

    Other conversations about the safety of vaccines:

    “The vaccine is safe.”
    “No, we would have shut down any trial in the past after even 100 deaths.”
    “This is more serious.”
    “But the survival rate is about 99.6%.”
    “It's killing people.”
    “So is the vaccine”
    “You can’t believe VAERS.”
    “It was set up to help protect the public, and if anything, it is underreporting side effects.”
    “You’re a conspiracy theorist.”

    Or conversations about early treatment

    “You must get the vaccine, it is the only “proven” treatment, there are no other treatments.”
    “Really, ivermectin has eradicated COVID in India, parts of Mexico, Japan….”
    “It is a horse dewormer.”
    “It won a Nobel Prize in medicine, is a WHO essential drug, and has been around for decades with a great safety profile.”
    “No, only the vaccine works.”
    “But it is failing”
    “You are a denier and a conspiracy theorist.”

    Lately, it has been all about getting 100% of the population jabbed. For what reason? I am not sure, and some of the more detailed and investigated theories scare me. I shudder to think. But last year’s heroes are being labeled selfish and villainous for not getting the vaccine. Hospital systems have abandoned their community’s health and ignored early successful outpatient treatment in favor of huge government subsidies for inpatient and ICU treatment. The success of these treatments was not great, but that is another article. Now we have the same hospital systems turning their backs on their own employees. Basically, health providers have a choice, get shot, or get fired. How does that help? Both vaxxed and unvaxxed can spread the virus, so it doesn’t help anyone. It only helps the hospital to get more government money by meeting quotas.

    I, for one, will remember that when we faced a real crisis, the hospitals and many physicians chose money and profit over their own community’s best interest. Perhaps it is time for groups of physicians to get back to running their own healthcare clinics and hospitals. We used to have a code of ethics. We used to put patients first. Not anymore.

    As for physicians, those who are blindly following the government edicts are culpable in a moral atrocity. Bullying and deriding patients who chose to refrain from this still experimental therapy is an abomination. (You will say it isn’t experimental anymore, to which I would say that just because the government broke its own rules regarding approval, doesn’t make it legal or right). Patients have sincere beliefs for making their choice. Respect their thoughts. Do you yell as much at smokers, drinkers, fornicators, drug abusers, etc? No, I think not. I think you chose to fit in because it gives you a sense of righteousness.

    And going so far as to encourage vaccination in children and pregnant women is crazy. There is blood on the hands of any physician who does this. With children, there is no benefit to the vaccine, only harm. They would serve themselves and society better with natural immunity. The vaccine hasn’t been studied on women and their babies. It is pregnancy category X (unknown) but being pushed wholesale on these poor women without proper studies. Shame on you, doctors who are doing this. I certainly have lots to answer for when I meet my maker, but this is on another level.

    I beg physicians to get back to basics, remember all the epidemiology and immunology that bored us to tears in school. Investigate the real literature and take a stand. Society needs us to do this. Even if you have been vaccinated, help those who are fighting for their lives. Stand up against this forced vaccine tyranny. Support those who have legitimate reasons for declining the jab. If you don’t stand up now, who will stand up for you when you are faced with your choice of yet another booster or your job."

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    wow you are so stupid you quoted american thinker!!

    see, when 98% of the world's experts agree on stuff, you need to believe that more than some random dickhead. or fox. or trump. from climate change, to covid. now go to your room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    We have been betrayed by the medical system.

    Buckle Up Fuckers.

    I warned Ya.
    Save yourself the pain by ending your life now.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    Are you now refusing all vaccines? Or just Trump's vaccine? Do you favor bleach and Facebook folk cures?
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    "I find myself in the position that I must use an alias for fear of reprisal. Those days may be quickly coming to an end, as hospitals are denying requests for vaccine exemptions with impunity. I will likely soon be out the door, with nothing to lose. Even if I survive this round, if the “pandemic” continues, it won’t be long before I am shelved like a can of spam.

    Doctors need to be called out. From early in the pandemic, it was like a mass hypnosis or forgetfulness of everything we had learned in medical school. Immune system knowledge was shelved and replaced by government dictates. The thought of early outpatient treatment with “off label” drugs that could modulate the immune system was forbidden. We essentially told patients that they had to go home and wait until they were sick enough to be hospitalized, then treatment would begin. Imagine telling all diabetics that there is no metformin, Glucophage, or insulin. Would we really wait until patients are in diabetic ketoacidosis, and then treat them only at the hospital? It is medical malfeasance of a grand scale.

    We physicians gave up our training and our reasonable medical thought process. The reasons are multiple. First, it was the easy way out. Second, many of us are employed and fear reprisal. Third, despite what the public thinks, we physicians are not bold leaders, we tend to be sheep, and are afraid of having an entire institution ostracize us or our colleagues to think us crazy.

    As we got to the point of vaccine rollout, doctors were not using the scientific method, questioning and challenging prevailing hypotheses. They kept their heads down, closed clinics, converted to telemedicine, and pushed only the jab.

    I had conversations with doctors who are supposed experts in virology and immunology denying the lasting immunity of natural infection. Conversations about natural immunity:

    “I have antibodies.”
    “But they will wane.”
    “But I have memory cells.”

    Dumbfounded look.

    Really, are these the leaders we want?

    Other conversations about the safety of vaccines:

    “The vaccine is safe.”
    “No, we would have shut down any trial in the past after even 100 deaths.”
    “This is more serious.”
    “But the survival rate is about 99.6%.”
    “It's killing people.”
    “So is the vaccine”
    “You can’t believe VAERS.”
    “It was set up to help protect the public, and if anything, it is underreporting side effects.”
    “You’re a conspiracy theorist.”

    Or conversations about early treatment

    “You must get the vaccine, it is the only “proven” treatment, there are no other treatments.”
    “Really, ivermectin has eradicated COVID in India, parts of Mexico, Japan….”
    “It is a horse dewormer.”
    “It won a Nobel Prize in medicine, is a WHO essential drug, and has been around for decades with a great safety profile.”
    “No, only the vaccine works.”
    “But it is failing”
    “You are a denier and a conspiracy theorist.”

    Lately, it has been all about getting 100% of the population jabbed. For what reason? I am not sure, and some of the more detailed and investigated theories scare me. I shudder to think. But last year’s heroes are being labeled selfish and villainous for not getting the vaccine. Hospital systems have abandoned their community’s health and ignored early successful outpatient treatment in favor of huge government subsidies for inpatient and ICU treatment. The success of these treatments was not great, but that is another article. Now we have the same hospital systems turning their backs on their own employees. Basically, health providers have a choice, get shot, or get fired. How does that help? Both vaxxed and unvaxxed can spread the virus, so it doesn’t help anyone. It only helps the hospital to get more government money by meeting quotas.

    I, for one, will remember that when we faced a real crisis, the hospitals and many physicians chose money and profit over their own community’s best interest. Perhaps it is time for groups of physicians to get back to running their own healthcare clinics and hospitals. We used to have a code of ethics. We used to put patients first. Not anymore.

    As for physicians, those who are blindly following the government edicts are culpable in a moral atrocity. Bullying and deriding patients who chose to refrain from this still experimental therapy is an abomination. (You will say it isn’t experimental anymore, to which I would say that just because the government broke its own rules regarding approval, doesn’t make it legal or right). Patients have sincere beliefs for making their choice. Respect their thoughts. Do you yell as much at smokers, drinkers, fornicators, drug abusers, etc? No, I think not. I think you chose to fit in because it gives you a sense of righteousness.

    And going so far as to encourage vaccination in children and pregnant women is crazy. There is blood on the hands of any physician who does this. With children, there is no benefit to the vaccine, only harm. They would serve themselves and society better with natural immunity. The vaccine hasn’t been studied on women and their babies. It is pregnancy category X (unknown) but being pushed wholesale on these poor women without proper studies. Shame on you, doctors who are doing this. I certainly have lots to answer for when I meet my maker, but this is on another level.

    I beg physicians to get back to basics, remember all the epidemiology and immunology that bored us to tears in school. Investigate the real literature and take a stand. Society needs us to do this. Even if you have been vaccinated, help those who are fighting for their lives. Stand up against this forced vaccine tyranny. Support those who have legitimate reasons for declining the jab. If you don’t stand up now, who will stand up for you when you are faced with your choice of yet another booster or your job."

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    Everything that they are doing with the vaccine now (for the most part) they did with the lgbt 15 - 20 years ago. I fought to get everyone to put an end to their sick and pathetic nonsense but instead it escalated to this. I tried to warn people.

    We are in an endless duration of constant change where the only thing that doesn't change is that change occurs because energy, matter and time are always present

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    This proves that there are still a lot of quacks in medicine. He finishes last in his class, but they still call him doctor.
    And it proves that leftists are assholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    I've seen a vegetarian that's a butcher. So yeah, you can find anomalies in most things. It's also from American Thinker which is a contradiction to what they put out.
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    So my 4 year old grandson just got over COVID . He now has better immunity than vaccinated people do. If he was 5 and the vaccine becomes available to 12-5 year olds. Why should he be vaccinated? No vaccine is totally safe. He would receive no benefits and would be a potential risk from harmful side effects.
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    Wait,...WHAT?? Vaccine trannys????????? Like Little Ratface, er,... I mean Diesel???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    And it proves that leftists are assholes.
    We are in an endless duration of constant change where the only thing that doesn't change is that change occurs because energy, matter and time are always present

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    Cry some more loser.

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