Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 19

Thread: Northern states see uptick in COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations

  1. #1 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    life
    Posts
    49,163
    Thanks
    12,471
    Thanked 20,871 Times in 14,619 Posts
    Groans
    243
    Groaned 1,850 Times in 1,763 Posts

    Default Northern states see uptick in COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations

    Despite vaccination rollouts, several states, particularly those in colder climates, are beginning to see a rise in infections.

    "You're starting to see an uptick in cases in the colder parts of the country and as people are driven indoors without masks on," former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb told CNN earlier this month. "The delta wave has not run through the United States... I think we have a couple of months to go."
    MORE: CDC advisers vote to recommend Moderna, J&J boosters, mixing and matching doses

    Experts have been warning for weeks that colder areas may see an uptick in cases this winter.

    "We may be starting to see the delta surge in the northern parts of the country that were relatively spared over the summer," said John Brownstein, Ph.D., an epidemiologist at Boston Children's Hospital and an ABC News contributor.

    In recently released forecasts, the PolicyLab at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia reported that infection rates in parts of the Midwest and Mountain states remained "stubbornly high," and that despite declining transmission in the Southeast, Mid-Atlantic and in California, a period of resurgence may be on the horizon for northern regions of the country.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/northe...ry?id=80653281

  2. #2 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    life
    Posts
    49,163
    Thanks
    12,471
    Thanked 20,871 Times in 14,619 Posts
    Groans
    243
    Groaned 1,850 Times in 1,763 Posts

    Default

    n the Midwest, many counties throughout Minnesota and Michigan have had a significant rise in cases, while other states (Delaware, Maine, Montana, New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Washington, Wisconsin, West Virginia and Wyoming) are reporting high transmission in nearly every county, according to federal data.

    "Coronaviruses tend to thrive in winter months and colder weather," Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky said. "Right now is not the time, as cases are coming down to become complacent because we do know colder weather is ahead of us."
    MORE: As White House announces vaccine plan for kids ages 5-11, states prepare for complex rollout

    These local increases in cases are being accompanied by an uptick in hospitalizations. Ten states (Alaska, Colorado, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Vermont, and Wyoming) are already seeing a higher number of hospital admissions.

    In Montana, forecasters noted that cities are experiencing the highest rates of case incidence and hospitalizations they have seen throughout the pandemic, mirroring what happened in Idaho last month. Similarly, in Utah, the outlook continues to worsen, specifically in the Salt Lake City region, as resurgence spreads to a wider geographic area.

    According to the PolicyLab, the regional variation across the country makes predicting the trajectory of this period of the pandemic challenging. While the team wrote that the likelihood of a fall and winter resurgence in northern areas "seems more probable," there is "uncertainty about the magnitude, duration and breadth of geographic regions that will be impacted."

    "We need to expect that, as we enter a season of shorter, colder days that will push more people to gather indoors, we will soon see a widening geographic distribution of resurgent transmission in many locations," forecasters wrote.

  3. #3 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Posts
    30,879
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 14,730 Times in 9,401 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 2,521 Times in 2,347 Posts

    Default

    All relative to total numbers

  4. #4 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    life
    Posts
    49,163
    Thanks
    12,471
    Thanked 20,871 Times in 14,619 Posts
    Groans
    243
    Groaned 1,850 Times in 1,763 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    All relative to total numbers
    what? do you mean per capita?

    Stop looking at the numbers -look at COVID itself.. people crowd indoors -COVID goes up
    The south is finally opening up ( It's still mid 80's here, but humidity is dropping

    The north is beginning to close up.. right on cue.

  5. The Following User Says Thank You to anatta For This Post:

    Life is Golden (10-22-2021)

  6. #5 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Posts
    30,879
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 14,730 Times in 9,401 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 2,521 Times in 2,347 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    what? do you mean per capita?

    Stop looking at the numbers -look at COVID itself.. people crowd indoors -COVID goes up
    The south is finally opening up ( It's still mid 80's here, but humidity is dropping

    The north is beginning to close up.. right on cue.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...cans-by-state/

    If your numbers all low and you have a spike you are going to see a rise in infections and hospitalization, relatively speaking though, your overall numbers are still lower compared to other States who had continuous high numbers, in other words, it is all relative to total numbers as I said in the beforehand

    And to imply that that rise reflects upon the effectiveness of vaccines is dishonest

  7. #6 | Top
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Posts
    9,012
    Thanks
    649
    Thanked 4,722 Times in 2,916 Posts
    Groans
    13
    Groaned 952 Times in 893 Posts

    Default

    "Colder climates" seems to be the operative phrase here.

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to BartenderElite For This Post:

    anatta (10-22-2021)

  9. #7 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    life
    Posts
    49,163
    Thanks
    12,471
    Thanked 20,871 Times in 14,619 Posts
    Groans
    243
    Groaned 1,850 Times in 1,763 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...cans-by-state/

    If your numbers all low and you have a spike you are going to see a rise in infections and hospitalization, relatively speaking though, your overall numbers are still lower compared to other States who had continuous high numbers, in other words, it is all relative to total numbers as I said in the beforehand

    And to imply that that rise reflects upon the effectiveness of vaccines is dishonest
    OK
    but why the rise? especially with hospitalizations?

    COVID is following flu and common cold patterns -higher in fall and winter for northern states
    Unlike Dems I dont try to say 'well it's vaxxing failure" when they blame southern states
    it simply the nature of the beast -which is what we are seeing -a shift northward as colder weather sets in

  10. #8 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Posts
    11,492
    Thanks
    2,894
    Thanked 6,196 Times in 4,127 Posts
    Groans
    422
    Groaned 710 Times in 658 Posts
    Blog Entries
    2

    Default

    Umm, these states have a shit ton of Antivaxxers too. So, how much are breakthrough infections? That's the only statistic relative to the vaccines.

  11. #9 | Top
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Posts
    13,800
    Thanks
    890
    Thanked 8,067 Times in 4,994 Posts
    Groans
    100
    Groaned 1,397 Times in 1,325 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    OK
    but why the rise? especially with hospitalizations?

    COVID is following flu and common cold patterns -higher in fall and winter for northern states
    Unlike Dems I dont try to say 'well it's vaxxing failure" when they blame southern states
    it simply the nature of the beast -which is what we are seeing -a shift northward as colder weather sets in
    Yeah, I remember that Florida didn't have a holiday outbreak like the rest of the country last year.

    Oh wait.

    That argument is the stupidest fucking argument on the planet. Floridians don't stay inside during the summer. They are out and about. Which is why Covid went crazy in the state. There were no mitigation efforts. It had ZERO to do with the weather.

  12. #10 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Location
    Florida - leader of the free states
    Posts
    9,714
    Thanks
    7,238
    Thanked 5,869 Times in 4,030 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 277 Times in 261 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Yeah, I remember that Florida didn't have a holiday outbreak like the rest of the country last year.

    Oh wait.

    That argument is the stupidest fucking argument on the planet. Floridians don't stay inside during the summer. They are out and about. Which is why Covid went crazy in the state. There were no mitigation efforts. It had ZERO to do with the weather.
    And now the numbers are lower than ever.

    No "NFL game" deaths, either.

    Moron.

    ​................

  13. The Following User Says Thank You to Life is Golden For This Post:

    anatta (10-22-2021)

  14. #11 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    life
    Posts
    49,163
    Thanks
    12,471
    Thanked 20,871 Times in 14,619 Posts
    Groans
    243
    Groaned 1,850 Times in 1,763 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Yeah, I remember that Florida didn't have a holiday outbreak like the rest of the country last year.

    Oh wait.

    That argument is the stupidest fucking argument on the planet. Floridians don't stay inside during the summer. They are out and about. Which is why Covid went crazy in the state. There were no mitigation efforts. It had ZERO to do with the weather.
    fucking dolt. we are inside with a/c same as the north is inside with heat in winter -which doesnt mean we are ONLY inside anymore then the north is only inside

    There are vaxxes, and monoclonal antibody sites set up by Desantis you fuckwaded idiot

  15. The Following User Says Thank You to anatta For This Post:

    Life is Golden (10-22-2021)

  16. #12 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Location
    Florida - leader of the free states
    Posts
    9,714
    Thanks
    7,238
    Thanked 5,869 Times in 4,030 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 277 Times in 261 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    fucking dolt. we are inside with a/c same as the north is inside with heat in winter -which doesnt mean we are ONLY inside anymore then the north is only inside

    There are vaxxes, and monoclonal antibody sites set up by Desantis you fuckwaded idiot


    He is a retard to the max.
    ​................

  17. #13 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Posts
    30,879
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 14,730 Times in 9,401 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 2,521 Times in 2,347 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    OK
    but why the rise? especially with hospitalizations?

    COVID is following flu and common cold patterns -higher in fall and winter for northern states
    Unlike Dems I dont try to say 'well it's vaxxing failure" when they blame southern states
    it simply the nature of the beast -which is what we are seeing -a shift northward as colder weather sets in
    Again, relative to the numbers, is there a rise, of course, it your number is low to begin with, is that rise significant in comparison to other areas that has continuously had high numbers, no, you are distorting the facts

    And why the rise, easy, Delta is not finished, most of those States have high vaccination rates but none of them are one hundred percent, meaning as long as the virus has unvaccinated hosts to spread to it isn't going to fade regardless of vaccinations

  18. #14 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    life
    Posts
    49,163
    Thanks
    12,471
    Thanked 20,871 Times in 14,619 Posts
    Groans
    243
    Groaned 1,850 Times in 1,763 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Again, relative to the numbers, is there a rise, of course, it your number is low to begin with, is that rise significant in comparison to other areas that has continuously had high numbers, no, you are distorting the facts
    the comparison is to the same states -not other states

    And why the rise, easy, Delta is not finished, most of those States have high vaccination rates but none of them are one hundred percent, meaning as long as the virus has unvaccinated hosts to spread to it isn't going to fade regardless of vaccinations
    Vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals have similar viral loads in communities with a high prevalence of the SARS-CoV-2 delta variant
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....31.21261387v1

  19. #15 | Top
    Join Date
    Jan 2020
    Posts
    16,053
    Thanks
    854
    Thanked 6,003 Times in 4,164 Posts
    Groans
    29
    Groaned 1,704 Times in 1,572 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    but why the rise? especially with hospitalizations?
    We are learning that Covid-19 comes in waves. This is partly because of seasonal concerns, and partly due to waining immunity. It does not appear to be because of mutations, like what causes influenza waves. That being said the Delta Variant has made the waves worse.

    Luckily, we have vaccines which keeps the death rate to a minimum, and actually blunts all the parts of the wave (infections, hospitalization, etc.).

    It appears we will see two types of waves in America. A full on twice yearly death wave in Red States, and a more flat infection wave maybe just once a year in Blue States. Once again, we are becoming two countries, a first world country, and a third world country.

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 4
    Last Post: 10-09-2021, 06:14 AM
  2. COVID-19 hospitalizations continue dip across Florida
    By Life is Golden in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 08-25-2021, 08:19 AM
  3. Replies: 2
    Last Post: 11-21-2020, 04:03 AM
  4. Replies: 6
    Last Post: 11-11-2020, 06:12 AM
  5. Florida reports record number of COVID-19 hospitalizations
    By guno in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 30
    Last Post: 08-11-2020, 07:12 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •