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    Default Northern states see uptick in COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations

    Despite vaccination rollouts, several states, particularly those in colder climates, are beginning to see a rise in infections.

    "You're starting to see an uptick in cases in the colder parts of the country and as people are driven indoors without masks on," former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb told CNN earlier this month. "The delta wave has not run through the United States... I think we have a couple of months to go."
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    Experts have been warning for weeks that colder areas may see an uptick in cases this winter.

    "We may be starting to see the delta surge in the northern parts of the country that were relatively spared over the summer," said John Brownstein, Ph.D., an epidemiologist at Boston Children's Hospital and an ABC News contributor.

    In recently released forecasts, the PolicyLab at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia reported that infection rates in parts of the Midwest and Mountain states remained "stubbornly high," and that despite declining transmission in the Southeast, Mid-Atlantic and in California, a period of resurgence may be on the horizon for northern regions of the country.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/northe...ry?id=80653281

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    n the Midwest, many counties throughout Minnesota and Michigan have had a significant rise in cases, while other states (Delaware, Maine, Montana, New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Washington, Wisconsin, West Virginia and Wyoming) are reporting high transmission in nearly every county, according to federal data.

    "Coronaviruses tend to thrive in winter months and colder weather," Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky said. "Right now is not the time, as cases are coming down to become complacent because we do know colder weather is ahead of us."
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    These local increases in cases are being accompanied by an uptick in hospitalizations. Ten states (Alaska, Colorado, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Vermont, and Wyoming) are already seeing a higher number of hospital admissions.

    In Montana, forecasters noted that cities are experiencing the highest rates of case incidence and hospitalizations they have seen throughout the pandemic, mirroring what happened in Idaho last month. Similarly, in Utah, the outlook continues to worsen, specifically in the Salt Lake City region, as resurgence spreads to a wider geographic area.

    According to the PolicyLab, the regional variation across the country makes predicting the trajectory of this period of the pandemic challenging. While the team wrote that the likelihood of a fall and winter resurgence in northern areas "seems more probable," there is "uncertainty about the magnitude, duration and breadth of geographic regions that will be impacted."

    "We need to expect that, as we enter a season of shorter, colder days that will push more people to gather indoors, we will soon see a widening geographic distribution of resurgent transmission in many locations," forecasters wrote.

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    All relative to total numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    All relative to total numbers
    what? do you mean per capita?

    Stop looking at the numbers -look at COVID itself.. people crowd indoors -COVID goes up
    The south is finally opening up ( It's still mid 80's here, but humidity is dropping

    The north is beginning to close up.. right on cue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    what? do you mean per capita?

    Stop looking at the numbers -look at COVID itself.. people crowd indoors -COVID goes up
    The south is finally opening up ( It's still mid 80's here, but humidity is dropping

    The north is beginning to close up.. right on cue.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...cans-by-state/

    If your numbers all low and you have a spike you are going to see a rise in infections and hospitalization, relatively speaking though, your overall numbers are still lower compared to other States who had continuous high numbers, in other words, it is all relative to total numbers as I said in the beforehand

    And to imply that that rise reflects upon the effectiveness of vaccines is dishonest

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    "Colder climates" seems to be the operative phrase here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...cans-by-state/

    If your numbers all low and you have a spike you are going to see a rise in infections and hospitalization, relatively speaking though, your overall numbers are still lower compared to other States who had continuous high numbers, in other words, it is all relative to total numbers as I said in the beforehand

    And to imply that that rise reflects upon the effectiveness of vaccines is dishonest
    OK
    but why the rise? especially with hospitalizations?

    COVID is following flu and common cold patterns -higher in fall and winter for northern states
    Unlike Dems I dont try to say 'well it's vaxxing failure" when they blame southern states
    it simply the nature of the beast -which is what we are seeing -a shift northward as colder weather sets in

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    Umm, these states have a shit ton of Antivaxxers too. So, how much are breakthrough infections? That's the only statistic relative to the vaccines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    OK
    but why the rise? especially with hospitalizations?

    COVID is following flu and common cold patterns -higher in fall and winter for northern states
    Unlike Dems I dont try to say 'well it's vaxxing failure" when they blame southern states
    it simply the nature of the beast -which is what we are seeing -a shift northward as colder weather sets in
    Yeah, I remember that Florida didn't have a holiday outbreak like the rest of the country last year.

    Oh wait.

    That argument is the stupidest fucking argument on the planet. Floridians don't stay inside during the summer. They are out and about. Which is why Covid went crazy in the state. There were no mitigation efforts. It had ZERO to do with the weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Yeah, I remember that Florida didn't have a holiday outbreak like the rest of the country last year.

    Oh wait.

    That argument is the stupidest fucking argument on the planet. Floridians don't stay inside during the summer. They are out and about. Which is why Covid went crazy in the state. There were no mitigation efforts. It had ZERO to do with the weather.
    And now the numbers are lower than ever.

    No "NFL game" deaths, either.

    Moron.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Yeah, I remember that Florida didn't have a holiday outbreak like the rest of the country last year.

    Oh wait.

    That argument is the stupidest fucking argument on the planet. Floridians don't stay inside during the summer. They are out and about. Which is why Covid went crazy in the state. There were no mitigation efforts. It had ZERO to do with the weather.
    fucking dolt. we are inside with a/c same as the north is inside with heat in winter -which doesnt mean we are ONLY inside anymore then the north is only inside

    There are vaxxes, and monoclonal antibody sites set up by Desantis you fuckwaded idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    fucking dolt. we are inside with a/c same as the north is inside with heat in winter -which doesnt mean we are ONLY inside anymore then the north is only inside

    There are vaxxes, and monoclonal antibody sites set up by Desantis you fuckwaded idiot


    He is a retard to the max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    OK
    but why the rise? especially with hospitalizations?

    COVID is following flu and common cold patterns -higher in fall and winter for northern states
    Unlike Dems I dont try to say 'well it's vaxxing failure" when they blame southern states
    it simply the nature of the beast -which is what we are seeing -a shift northward as colder weather sets in
    Again, relative to the numbers, is there a rise, of course, it your number is low to begin with, is that rise significant in comparison to other areas that has continuously had high numbers, no, you are distorting the facts

    And why the rise, easy, Delta is not finished, most of those States have high vaccination rates but none of them are one hundred percent, meaning as long as the virus has unvaccinated hosts to spread to it isn't going to fade regardless of vaccinations

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Again, relative to the numbers, is there a rise, of course, it your number is low to begin with, is that rise significant in comparison to other areas that has continuously had high numbers, no, you are distorting the facts
    the comparison is to the same states -not other states

    And why the rise, easy, Delta is not finished, most of those States have high vaccination rates but none of them are one hundred percent, meaning as long as the virus has unvaccinated hosts to spread to it isn't going to fade regardless of vaccinations
    Vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals have similar viral loads in communities with a high prevalence of the SARS-CoV-2 delta variant
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....31.21261387v1

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    but why the rise? especially with hospitalizations?
    We are learning that Covid-19 comes in waves. This is partly because of seasonal concerns, and partly due to waining immunity. It does not appear to be because of mutations, like what causes influenza waves. That being said the Delta Variant has made the waves worse.

    Luckily, we have vaccines which keeps the death rate to a minimum, and actually blunts all the parts of the wave (infections, hospitalization, etc.).

    It appears we will see two types of waves in America. A full on twice yearly death wave in Red States, and a more flat infection wave maybe just once a year in Blue States. Once again, we are becoming two countries, a first world country, and a third world country.

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