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    I haven't read every post in the thread.

    Were they shooting a scene when Baldwin fired the lethal shot?
    If that were the case, I can't see how he can be faulted.

    If it were carelessness on the set, that's another matter.

    As for places like Tokyo and Taipei, those are in democratic nations just like the United States.
    If the citizens as a whole wanted the right to bear arms as in American culture, they could have it.
    They don't want it.

    Americans in turn seem to have to have it. It's merely a cultural predisposition.
    Talking about the constitution is bullshit.
    If Americans by consensus were virulently anti gun, the constitution is theoretically amendable.
    When people have a globally unique right, however, you'll NEVER get the majority to give it up.
    Who gives up globally unique things?
    I don't even know why some still try.

    We're going to cap each other asses no matter what. We're Americans with all the good and bad that entails. That's one of the bad things.

    Let's worry about universal health care coverage and getting our workers unionized again. Those are actually doable.
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    Alec Baldwin is a producer of this particular movie. Alec Baldwin knew they had already had accidental discharges on set. He did nothing about it and someone died. If depraved heart works to convict Chauvin then it works for Baldwin too because this is a depraved heart scenario. Lock him up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    Alec Baldwin is a producer of this particular movie. Alec Baldwin knew they had already had accidental discharges on set. He did nothing about it and someone died. If depraved heart works to convict Chauvin then it works for Baldwin too because this is a depraved heart scenario. Lock him up.
    Baldwin was a executive producer, not a regular producer. Basically, he got the project approved, but was not [officially] involved with the day-to-day running of the film. You would need to find a lot of evidence to put this on Baldwin, given that he was an executive producer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Baldwin was a executive producer, not a regular producer. Basically, he got the project approved, but was not [officially] involved with the day-to-day running of the film. You would need to find a lot of evidence to put this on Baldwin, given that he was an executive producer.
    We shall see what Hollywood says.

    I am not at all sure that Baldwin will get a pass for what happened here, on his movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    We shall see what Hollywood says.

    I am not at all sure that Baldwin will get a pass for what happened here, on his movie.
    Now reputation risk is a real risk. He literally pulled the trigger and killed someone. It might be an issue with Hollywood, and people not wanting to work with him. Worse yet, it could be an issue with the public in general. Hollywood produces whatever people want to see. If Baldwin is radioactive, they will drop him like a hot potato.

    For instance, Bill Cosby was able to bribe a Republican prosecutor to get him out of prison... BUT HE WILL NEVER MAKE ANOTHER MOVIE OR TV SHOW!!! We all know who he is now, and we do not want to watch him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Now reputation risk is a real risk. He literally pulled the trigger and killed someone. It might be an issue with Hollywood, and people not wanting to work with him. Worse yet, it could be an issue with the public in general. Hollywood produces whatever people want to see. If Baldwin is radioactive, they will drop him like a hot potato.

    For instance, Bill Cosby was able to bribe a Republican prosecutor to get him out of prison... BUT HE WILL NEVER MAKE ANOTHER MOVIE OR TV SHOW!!! We all know who he is now, and we do not want to watch him.
    He hired the AD who failed here.....let's start there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    Alec Baldwin is a producer of this particular movie. Alec Baldwin knew they had already had accidental discharges on set. He did nothing about it and someone died. If depraved heart works to convict Chauvin then it works for Baldwin too because this is a depraved heart scenario. Lock him up.
    fuck you. he was TOLD IT WAS UNLOADED, DICKFACED BITCH. fuck chauvin, you sick ass pussy boy. chauvin murdered that guy by choking him for 8 minutes, you stupid fuck bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Well, it certainly had enough force to send a bullet into Lee killing him. I guess we can all feel better that your "expertise" is not used in movie making life and death situations.
    there was no b ullet

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggy View Post
    Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun on a set in New Mexico on Thursday, accidentally killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounding director Joel Souza.

    The incident occurred on the set of “Rust,” an independent feature that was filming at the Bonanza Creek Ranch, a popular production location south of Santa Fe.

    Hutchins, 42, was transported by helicopter to University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque, where she died. Souza, 48, was taken by ambulance to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center in Santa Fe, where he was receiving emergency care.

    The Santa Fe County Sheriff’s office said in a statement that Hutchins and Souza “were shot when a prop firearm was discharged by Alec Baldwin, 68, producer and actor.”

    No one was arrested in the incident, and no charges have been filed, the office said. Detectives were interviewing witnesses, and the incident remains under an “open and active” investigation, according to the Sheriff’s office.

    https://variety.com/2021/film/news/a...fe-1235094931/
    ARROGANT, STUPIDFUCK ASSHOLE.; YOU NEVER POINT A GUN AT SOMEONE IN "JEST", AND TREAT EVERY GUN LIKE IT'S LOADED....

    AND NO, THE WOMAN HE NEGLIGENTLY MURDERED, and the DIRECTOR HE WOUNDED , WERE NOT "IN" THE MOVIE , SO THERE WAS NEVER ANY REASON TO POINT A GUN AT EITHER, THE FUCKING LEFTIST MORON.


    HE SHOULD BE PROSECUTED FOR RECKLESS HOMICIDE....AND , IF HE WEREN'T A PROMINENT LEFTST ASSHOLE, HE WOULD BE...

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Baldwin was handed a prop gun. He failed to check it's condition with respect to being loaded correctly. This is his fault. The first thing you do on picking up any firearm is check to see if it's loaded or not.
    Nope. Read the details of the story again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Now reputation risk is a real risk. He literally pulled the trigger and killed someone. It might be an issue with Hollywood, and people not wanting to work with him. Worse yet, it could be an issue with the public in general. Hollywood produces whatever people want to see. If Baldwin is radioactive, they will drop him like a hot potato.

    For instance, Bill Cosby was able to bribe a Republican prosecutor to get him out of prison... BUT HE WILL NEVER MAKE ANOTHER MOVIE OR TV SHOW!!! We all know who he is now, and we do not want to watch him.
    Michael Richards is the exception.
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    What is sensical about limiting the means available for defense of self and country, when those with real criminal intent will ignore that law anyway, and where is the sense in surrendering the means of having last resort power over your government should it decide to ignore it's constitutional limits?

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    I think Baldwin is suffering from this accident. He is not at fault. He was not trying to kill anyone. Why are people trying to hold him responsible, his politics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    I haven't read every post in the thread.

    Were they shooting a scene when Baldwin fired the lethal shot?
    If that were the case, I can't see how he can be faulted.

    If it were carelessness on the set, that's another matter.

    As for places like Tokyo and Taipei, those are in democratic nations just like the United States.
    If the citizens as a whole wanted the right to bear arms as in American culture, they could have it.
    They don't want it.

    Americans in turn seem to have to have it. It's merely a cultural predisposition.
    Talking about the constitution is bullshit.
    If Americans by consensus were virulently anti gun, the constitution is theoretically amendable.
    When people have a globally unique right, however, you'll NEVER get the majority to give it up.
    Who gives up globally unique things?
    I don't even know why some still try.

    We're going to cap each other asses no matter what. We're Americans with all the good and bad that entails. That's one of the bad things.

    Let's worry about universal health care coverage and getting our workers unionized again. Those are actually doable.
    One of the most important rules in gun handling is to make sure you know if its loaded or not dont take others word for it liberals like him are not accustomed to following rules or doing things for themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    I think Baldwin is suffering from this accident. He is not at fault. He was not trying to kill anyone. Why are people trying to hold him responsible, his politics?
    That's a firm "yes." It's just because of his politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Nope. Read the details of the story again.
    According to several prop masters, they all say they let the actor examine the firearm with them when they receive it. They give a safety briefing at the same time, and supposedly the actors using these firearms have undergone safety training on top of that.

    “In the film business, we take extreme caution with any kind of weapons.”
    He continued, “Typically we will do a safety brief with the cast and crew. We’ll introduce the weapon to the cast and crew. We’ll let them examine it. We’ll explain safety precautions that go with each type of prop weapon.”
    https://ijr.com/prop-master-safety-p...win-movie-set/

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