What will happen to Biden's agenda and the 2022 midterms

**Truth Detector** · 10-21-2021, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy

he is still the head of the GOP. deal with it.

Apparently it is something unhinged idiots like you on the left can't deal with.

**Jack** · 10-21-2021, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by RB 60

Will you will reach orgasm? (you won't be fucking a tree, will you?)

**Truth Detector** · 10-21-2021, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy

of course. he is a piece of shit.

BUT TRUMP!!!

**Truth Detector** · 10-21-2021, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy

laughing at dumbfuck jackoffs like you who want trump to grab your pussy without asking....while saying biden is too flaky!! this bitch thought the colonists controlled the airports and the skies during 1776!!!

**Truth Detector** · 10-21-2021, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Lionfish

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**archives** · 10-21-2021, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Concart

IMHO history is tossed out the window, because there has never been a Trump before. He's so far 2-2 in costing Republicans Senate seats, and I think he's at least a -20 seat drag on the Republicans in the House. That being said, that is highly dependent on a Voting Rights Act passing, it is the single most important issue there is. It has to be done, or all bets are off.

Those Senate seats were in 2020 when the Trump off the rail tour had just begun, but now the rest of the GOP has jumped on the wagon, and as much as his name identification will hurt some, for most, it will be business as usual. Ain’t seeing it in the House, as I noted, demographics and history ain’t on the Democrats side, and let me add, I hope I am wrong

No Voting Right’s Act is passing, Mitch won’t allow it, and the filibuster ain’t happening

**archives** · 10-21-2021, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner

The Democrats are almost certain to lose control of Congress in 2022. If that happens, Biden's whole Progressive agenda is dead and buried. Now, whether Biden shifts to the Center or not remains to be seen. If he doesn't he'll be reduced to his "pen and phone" like Obama for his remaining two years. If he shifts and tries to actually work with Republicans it might be he salvages something from his time in office, but I don't think he's anywhere near as politically savvy and competent as Clinton, or even Obama, was.

Instead, I expect him to rail against the Republicans, continue his tired old tag lines... Oh, come on man, here's the deal... with nobody listening to him ramble on. On things like immigration expect a shit storm or investigations and such into that after 2022.

A GOP Congress has no intention of doing anything or working with anyone, that ain’t Mitch, it will be just the usual obstruct and “investigate”we have always seen from the GOP. Biden will be, as you phrase it, “pen and phone” President

And as mentioned above, one thing the GOP does do is endless redundant “investigations,” names as Issa, Chaffetz, Gouda, Nunes, Meadows, and of course little Jimmy Jordan are the party’s icons for the last fifteen years and not one of them is famous for even introducing any legislation in Congress. Being a real representative and working to advance the country doesn’t create the two minute sound bites Fox and the like depend upon

**Bulletbob** · 10-21-2021, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Concart

After much wailing and gnashing of teeth, all designed as a political theater, this is what is about happen:

After Joe Manchin's 'compromise' Voting Rights Act received exactly zero Republican votes, Manchin will, with much consternation, declare that the filibuster must remain in place but be changed to a talking filibuster. Manchin will make a huge show out of saying that debate is important but the institutions in place in the Senate should be respected. After the rules have been modified, the current cloture rules will be rendered meaningless, the filibuster will no longer be a tool to block EVERY Democratic Bill, and a Voting Rights Act will pass that will render many of the new state laws meaningless.

Meanwhile, the BBB plan (child care, health care, clean energy etc.) will pass with a price tag at around 2 trillion over ten years. The provisions of the bill, which will pass with exactly zero Republican votes, will be wildly popular, and while Republicans are campaigning with the single goal of not pissing off Trump, Democrats will point to the huge initiatives they have passed for the American people.

As for Republicans, their role in the 1/6 insurrection will become apparent, Trump, facing criminal and civil litigation will spend most of the next year whining about the last election and attacking anyone who he feels has wronged him. The GOP is slaughtered in races up and down the ballot.

That's what will happen. Dems win HUGE.

fuck joe biden you got some surprises coming

**Concart** · 10-21-2021, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by archives

Those Senate seats were in 2020 when the Trump off the rail tour had just begun, but now the rest of the GOP has jumped on the wagon, and as much as his name identification will hurt some, for most, it will be business as usual. Ain’t seeing it in the House, as I noted, demographics and history ain’t on the Democrats side, and let me add, I hope I am wrong

No Voting Right’s Act is passing, Mitch won’t allow it, and the filibuster ain’t happening

I'm a glass half full guy. I think this entire 'compromise' Voting Rights Act that Manchin proposed was just a dance to give him an excuse to support the talking filibuster change. Sausage making has always been an ugly process, this is no different, except for the smaller margin for error. Without a Voting Rights Act, Manchin may keep his job but will lose his power. I thnk he knows that.

**archives** · 10-21-2021, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Bulletbob

fuck joe biden you got some surprises coming

Amazing how “bobbie” just always has such content driven posts to offer, I suppose we should thank him, otherwise one would have to hang around a middle school cafeteria to hear what he delivers daily

**PoliTalker** · 10-21-2021, 11:22 AM

Hello Concart,

Originally Posted by Concart

After much wailing and gnashing of teeth, all designed as a political theater, this is what is about happen:

After Joe Manchin's 'compromise' Voting Rights Act received exactly zero Republican votes, Manchin will, with much consternation, declare that the filibuster must remain in place but be changed to a talking filibuster. Manchin will make a huge show out of saying that debate is important but the institutions in place in the Senate should be respected. After the rules have been modified, the current cloture rules will be rendered meaningless, the filibuster will no longer be a tool to block EVERY Democratic Bill, and a Voting Rights Act will pass that will render many of the new state laws meaningless.

Meanwhile, the BBB plan (child care, health care, clean energy etc.) will pass with a price tag at around 2 trillion over ten years. The provisions of the bill, which will pass with exactly zero Republican votes, will be wildly popular, and while Republicans are campaigning with the single goal of not pissing off Trump, Democrats will point to the huge initiatives they have passed for the American people.

As for Republicans, their role in the 1/6 insurrection will become apparent, Trump, facing criminal and civil litigation will spend most of the next year whining about the last election and attacking anyone who he feels has wronged him. The GOP is slaughtered in races up and down the ballot.

That's what will happen. Dems win HUGE.

Love it. Sounds extremely plausible.

Basically, it is sausage time.

Nobody wants to watch sausages being made, but they sure like 'em served nicely on their plate!

Lawmaking is like sausage making.

**archives** · 10-21-2021, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Concart

I'm a glass half full guy. I think this entire 'compromise' Voting Rights Act that Manchin proposed was just a dance to give him an excuse to support the talking filibuster change. Sausage making has always been an ugly process, this is no different, except for the smaller margin for error. Without a Voting Rights Act, Manchin may keep his job but will lose his power. I thnk he knows that.

True, and I’m amazed that the Democrats on the fence don’t realize now that they have bought up the discussion over the filibuster that Mitch will definitely do it the first chance he gets, just like the fictitious “Biden rule” he employed to deny Obama his SCOTUS Judge

But, being realistic, ain’t seeing it, and just like most of them, Manchin values his job most of all

**ExpressLane** · 10-21-2021, 11:26 AM

The midterms will be more brutal than they were on Obama. Democrats in the House are already announcing their retirements.

**PoliTalker** · 10-21-2021, 12:39 PM

Hello Concart,

Originally Posted by Concart

They are destroying their brand. That’s a large part of it. Republicans running for Congress are faced with an impossible choice made more difficult by their votes (or lack there of) and their need to have accomplished something. And Trump seals the deal. He is the genie. They wished for the wrong things.

Well, when you have no platform...

**PoliTalker** · 10-21-2021, 12:42 PM

Hello Concart,

Originally Posted by Concart

IMHO history is tossed out the window, because there has never been a Trump before. He's so far 2-2 in costing Republicans Senate seats, and I think he's at least a -20 seat drag on the Republicans in the House. That being said, that is highly dependent on a Voting Rights Act passing, it is the single most important issue there is. It has to be done, or all bets are off.

I don't see why Manchin won't support that. He is a Democrat.