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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I read it, you fucking stupid asshole.
    Nope. You discarded it. Discarding isn't reading. Redefinition fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Nope. You discarded it.
    You are extremely stupid. Probably mentally ill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    where does 2nd Amend. state that?
    the right of the people and shall not be infringed..........along with the dozens of pieces of commentary given to the people of the new states before, during, and after ratification.

    I'm still trying to understand how you idiots believe that there was some secret document undertaking by madison that says 'let's fuck with the new people and lie to them about what they are ratifying'............can you show me that?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    It is not a notion. The Declaration has never been used as the authority for any government action under our current Constitution. You are confusing your sources of authority.
    the Declaration is the first original source of we the people declaring our freedom from oppressive authority. how anyone can seriously discard it's notification to government is stupefying.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    They are not overriding the Constitution. States have that authority under the Constitution. The 2nd did not restrict state action until 2010.

    See McDonald v. Chicago. Justices Scalia and Alito agreed the 14th Amendment incorporated the 2nd to apply to the states.

    https://www.oyez.org/cases/2009/08-1521
    you're one of those low information morons who believes that the SCOTUS gets to tell you what is and isn't Constitutional, aren't you?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    the right of the people and shall not be infringed..........along with the dozens of pieces of commentary given to the people of the new states before, during, and after ratification.

    I'm still trying to understand how you idiots believe that there was some secret document undertaking by madison that says 'let's fuck with the new people and lie to them about what they are ratifying'............can you show me that?
    "well regulate militia"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    the Declaration is the first original source of we the people declaring our freedom from oppressive authority. how anyone can seriously discard it's notification to government is stupefying.
    That was under Great Britain and was a justification of declaring independence. It has never been used as a source of authority for any legal action by the U. S. It is a statement of philosophy.

    Maybe you can cite the court cases or actions based on the "legal authority" of the Declaration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    you're one of those low information morons who believes that the SCOTUS gets to tell you what is and isn't Constitutional, aren't you?
    I was just citing the opinions of Thomas, Alito, and Scalia. I guess they are morons.

    The Supreme Court establishes the law that governs us. If you believe in the rule of law you follow their decisions whether you agree or not.

    Obviously, my information on this issue is not nearly as low as yours. You deny over 200 years of constitutional history because you don't like the opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    you're one of those low information morons who believes that the SCOTUS gets to tell you what is and isn't Constitutional, aren't you?
    You're one of those low information morons who believes that the constitution was written on Mount Sinai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    you're one of those low information morons who believes that the SCOTUS gets to tell you what is and isn't Constitutional, aren't you?
    Bingo. That's exactly what he is. He believes SCOTUS has authority over the Constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    "well regulate militia"
    This phrase does not appear in the Constitution anywhere.

    A phrase is not the entirety, nor does it replace any other part of the Constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    This phrase does not appear in the Constitution anywhere.

    A phrase is not the entirety, nor does it replace any other part of the Constitution.
    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    That was under Great Britain and was a justification of declaring independence. It has never been used as a source of authority for any legal action by the U. S. It is a statement of philosophy.

    Maybe you can cite the court cases or actions based on the "legal authority" of the Declaration.
    Legal authority does not have to be a court case or action. The Declaration of Independence is a legal document, declaring independence from the British crown. It IS the authority of that action.

    It is also philosophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    "well regulate militia"
    tell us how 'well regulated militia' was defined and presented to all of we the people when it was ratified...................
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    tell us how 'well regulated militia' was defined and presented to all of we the people when it was ratified...................
    you go find out dummy

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