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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Sure it does. I was wrong about the last word.

    No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
    What does that have to do with stop signs? This is not a grant of power but a limit on state power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    They put it in their for a very specific reason.

    States ALSO have the right to defend themselves (just as any government does). They organize militias for that purpose.

    If someone were to attack Washington State, for example, it has the right to organize a militia to repel the invasion. It does not have to wait for the federal government.

    The federal government also has a militia, called the National Guard. It has the right to organize that militia, just as the States do.

    The Washington Militia Guard currently has about 75 people in it, mostly administrative staff since it's not on active status.

    A government has the right of self defense just as an individual does.
    true...that is what the 2nd Amendment guarantees. duh. not individuals NOT in a well regulated militia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    you are the clueless bitch, boy. all the punk ass gun nuts today with 3 assault weapons each would be killed within hours if push came to shove and our military went rogue. are you really this fucking senseless?
    There is no such thing as an 'assault weapon'.

    The military would stand no chance against a united citizenry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    What does that have to do with stop signs? This is not a grant of power but a limit on state power.
    I guess my point is that it has to do with life. Without the stop signs, lives will be deprived.

    I guess I was having a brain fart moment. LOL.

    However, we do have the right to life and to be protected from others who are indifferent to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    There is no such thing as an 'assault weapon'.

    The military would stand no chance against a united citizenry.
    What is an arm? We all have two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    There is no such thing as an 'assault weapon'.

    The military would stand no chance against a united citizenry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    There is no such thing as an 'assault weapon'.

    The military would stand no chance against a united citizenry.
    yes, there is such a thing as an assault weapon, stupid fuck. and i cannot believe how fucking stupid you are. if the military went full on neanderthal, did not care about collateral damage, any uprising, any armed revolt, would be squashed like a bug on a windshield of a car doing 100 mph...are you nuts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    yes, there is such a thing as an assault weapon, stupid fuck. and i cannot believe how fucking stupid you are. if the military went full on neanderthal, did not care about collateral damage, any uprising, any armed revolt, would be squashed like a bug on a windshield of a car doing 100 mph...are you nuts?
    He is nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Your views are very idealistic and unrealistic.

    I was amused by looking up the Canadian Constitution by the way; 85 pages???
    Canada has no constitution. It is a federated oligarchy.

    The so-called 'Canadian Constitution' isn't a constitution at all. It can be changed or quashed at will by Parliament.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    The wannabe usurpers are those who stormed the Capitol. That is on you.
    What was usurped?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    What was usurped?
    I said wannabe usurpers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    I guess my point is that it has to do with life. Without the stop signs, lives will be deprived.

    I guess I was having a brain fart moment. LOL.

    However, we do have the right to life and to be protected from others who are indifferent to it.
    It says the state shall not deprive you of life without due process (trial, jury, etc.)

    There is no way the state can guarantee your right to life by protecting you from others--anyone can injure you at any time. The only thing the state can do is punish them afterwards. Your right to life is only protected against government action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    It says the state shall not deprive you of life without due process (trial, jury, etc.)

    There is no way the state can guarantee your right to life by protecting you from others--anyone can injure you at any time. The only thing the state can do is punish them afterwards. Your right to life is only protected against government action.
    True but it can minimize the dangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    True but it can minimize the dangers.
    Sure, but we really can't call it a "right" as compared to other rights guaranteed against government restrictions.

    Your first quote is from the Declaration of Independence, but that document is nothing legally binding today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Your first quote is from the Declaration of Independence, but that document is nothing legally binding today.
    Yes I know. Common mistake.

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