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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    no, bitch. quit lying.
    You are describing yourself again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    if the founders did not want only members of a well regulated militia to have the right to bear and own arms as a constitutional right, then whey did they bring up a "well regulated militia?"
    You don't get to speak for the dead. You only get to speak for you. The Constitution of the United States is the ONLY authoritative reference of the Constitution of the United States.

    I have already answered your question. RQAA.

    The 2nd amendment discusses to similar rights, not to be messed with:
    The right of a State (or any government) to defend itself. It does this through organizing an army...a militia.
    The right of the individual to defend himself. He does this with the weapon of his choice (not just guns). That includes the right to defend his community.

    Do not ask this question again. It has already been answered. I just answered it AGAIN.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    of course everyone knew you could own a gun, it was necessary back then, but it was subject to local laws about where and when you could bear them. UNLESS IN WELL REGULATED MILITIA.
    There is no 'unless' clause in the 2nd amendment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    the constitution did not give a specific right for people to own dinner tables, but they did anyway.
    The constitution does not give rights. Rights do not come from a piece of paper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    if in a well regulated militia. duh. try to read.
    There is no 'if' clause in the 2nd amendment. Duh. Try to read.
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    and all rights can be infringed upon in case of emergency or when it threatens the peace of the safety of citizens at large.
    Unconstitutional.
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    there are no absolute rights, period.
    Yes there are. The right of self defense is one of them.
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    assault weapons were banned,
    There is no such thing as an 'assault weapon'. It is unconstitutional to ban any gun or any other weapon.
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    and are banned even today in some sensible states.
    Unconstitutional.
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    restrictions on who can buy a gun,
    Unconstitutional.
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    on where guns can be carried are laws in almost every state.
    Unconstitutional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    There is no 'if' clause in the 2nd amendment. Duh. Try to read.

    Unconstitutional.

    Yes there are. The right of self defense is one of them.

    There is no such thing as an 'assault weapon'. It is unconstitutional to ban any gun or any other weapon.

    Unconstitutional.

    Unconstitutional.

    Unconstitutional.
    wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong. but thanks for playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    You are describing yourself again.

    You don't get to speak for the dead. You only get to speak for you. The Constitution of the United States is the ONLY authoritative reference of the Constitution of the United States.

    I have already answered your question. RQAA.

    The 2nd amendment discusses to similar rights, not to be messed with:
    The right of a State (or any government) to defend itself. It does this through organizing an army...a militia.
    The right of the individual to defend himself. He does this with the weapon of his choice (not just guns). That includes the right to defend his community.

    Do not ask this question again. It has already been answered. I just answered it AGAIN.

    There is no 'unless' clause in the 2nd amendment.

    The constitution does not give rights. Rights do not come from a piece of paper.
    you are too stupid to understand. go to your room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong. but thanks for playing.
    The part about a well regulated militia is completely irrelevant. They put it in there for no reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    The part about a well regulated militia is completely irrelevant. They put it in there for no reason.
    Well they did have a reason. They were under constant threat from England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Well they did have a reason. They were under constant threat from England.
    You missed my point completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    did you know they said all that shit 230 fucking years ago, when most of them had slaves,
    Most people did not have slaves. Slaves were expensive, both to buy and house.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    when women could not vote, and the most dangerous gun was a fucking musket?
    Go stand in front of a musket while someone fires it at you. Tell how 'undangerous' this weapon is.
    You could own your own cannon, your own explosives, your own primitive machine gun (that was around at the time). You could own a sword, or any other weapon you can name. You still can today. Unconstitutional laws to not have to be recognized.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    and very few cops,
    There are a lot fewer cops today, thanks to BLM violence and Democrats. There are very few cops out in the country.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    and very few butcher stores,
    People in the country butcher their own meat. They will also butcher meat and sell it to the 'butcher' stores.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    and guns were necessary for most colonists? not like today? get it?
    Appeal to history fallacy. Special pleading fallacy.

    You do not get to decide what weapon people get to use for self defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    The part about a well regulated militia is completely irrelevant. They put it in there for no reason.
    yeah, their mind just wandered for a moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    yeah, their mind just wandered for a moment.
    "Chocolate ice cream tastes very good, therefore the right to bear arms...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    That has got to be the dumbest argument I've ever seen on the Constitution. I think we're done here. I can't argue with an uneducated moron who makes laughably stupid arguments like this.
    In other words, you have no clue where the Constitution gives the government the power to control immigration. Just cite the provision.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    The part about a well regulated militia is completely irrelevant. They put it in there for no reason.
    They put it in their for a very specific reason.

    States ALSO have the right to defend themselves (just as any government does). They organize militias for that purpose.

    If someone were to attack Washington State, for example, it has the right to organize a militia to repel the invasion. It does not have to wait for the federal government.

    The federal government also has a militia, called the National Guard. It has the right to organize that militia, just as the States do.

    The Washington Militia Guard currently has about 75 people in it, mostly administrative staff since it's not on active status.

    A government has the right of self defense just as an individual does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    You missed my point completely.
    I guess so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Most people did not have slaves. Slaves were expensive, both to buy and house. (so that makes slavery acceptable? what a freaking asshole you are)


    You do not get to decide what weapon people get to use for self defense.
    we, the people do, by our votes and backed up by supreme court decisions. like banning assault weapons, fully auto machine guns, hand grenades, bazookas, shoulder fired ground to air missile systems, fully operational tanks, nuclear submarines and the like, stupid fuck clown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    In other words, you have no clue where the Constitution gives the government the power to control immigration. Just cite the provision.

    Article I, $8. Article II, $2.

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