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    California brought a lot of this on ports there through new laws and regulations.

    They just passed a law banning older diesel trucks forcing them out of service at those ports. This has effected as much as a third of the fleet.

    They just passed a law banning most independent contractors and gig work. Most of the drivers at California ports fell into this category. They would now have to be hired by the port as employees instead of being independent contractors and then forced into joining the longshoreman's union, or other unions at the port. This will raise the costs on their employment substantially. Yes, as independent contractors they made far less and the ports were taking advantage of that. Now the ports are operating slower and at lower volumes to keep the cost of moving cargo the same.

    Chinese Disease protocols have added delays to shift changes. For example, all equipment must be wiped down and disinfected before the next shift can take over.

    California ports are closed to truckers on weekends right now, although that may change. Until a couple of weeks ago, these ports didn't operate 24/7 either...

    On top of all that volume of cargo has increased and the port capacity hasn't.

    https://www.universalcargo.com/5-fac...nd-long-beach/
    https://calmatters.org/newsletters/w...-chain-crisis/

    So there is no one cause, but rather a group of causes, mostly due to government getting in the way that is clogging West Coast ports.

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    Putin was bitching about inflation and goods not getting through today. Must be that regulation and Biden at fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionfish View Post
    TX and FL will make moves to increase their port handling capacity. The governors of both states have made this commitment. CA will gradually lose their lock on goods coming from China as large companies like Amazon are looking into long haul aircraft to replace dockworker unions.
    Ports are not part of the state responsibility. They are federal responsibilities. You should read the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulletbob View Post
    https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/10/0...e-los-angeles/

    , so gain florida will lead the way
    Guess the liberals in California just cant get it right the fuck ups
    Where in Florida do the ports have the infrastructure to handle all those cargo ships????
    Lock Him Up

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    California brought a lot of this on ports there through new laws and regulations.

    They just passed a law banning older diesel trucks forcing them out of service at those ports. This has effected as much as a third of the fleet.

    They just passed a law banning most independent contractors and gig work. Most of the drivers at California ports fell into this category. They would now have to be hired by the port as employees instead of being independent contractors and then forced into joining the longshoreman's union, or other unions at the port. This will raise the costs on their employment substantially. Yes, as independent contractors they made far less and the ports were taking advantage of that. Now the ports are operating slower and at lower volumes to keep the cost of moving cargo the same.

    Chinese Disease protocols have added delays to shift changes. For example, all equipment must be wiped down and disinfected before the next shift can take over.

    California ports are closed to truckers on weekends right now, although that may change. Until a couple of weeks ago, these ports didn't operate 24/7 either...

    On top of all that volume of cargo has increased and the port capacity hasn't.

    https://www.universalcargo.com/5-fac...nd-long-beach/
    https://calmatters.org/newsletters/w...-chain-crisis/

    So there is no one cause, but rather a group of causes, mostly due to government getting in the way that is clogging West Coast ports.
    and increased demand and volume. shit happens and it takes a capitalist, private enterprise system longer to adjust than a communist or fascist government controlled economy where they can order people to work there, to work overtime, to do what it takes by force and authoritarian rule. is that what repubs want? democracy and capitalism are messy, a little haphazard, but the only systems worth living in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Ports are not part of the state responsibility. They are federal responsibilities. You should read the Constitution.
    A port operator is port authority or company that contracts with the port authority to move cargo through a port at a contracted minimum level of productivity. They may be state-owned (particularly for port authorities) or privately run.

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    The supply chain problems are impacting globally. The WTO says nobody expected the surge in demand would be at this level. The companies had already cut production and support. Now they are behind demand badly. https://www.ft.com/content/dd54ddff-...5-4f9d5dc43081

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Ports are not part of the state responsibility. They are federal responsibilities. You should read the Constitution.
    Port authorities in the United States are instrumentalities of state or local government established by enactment or grants of authority by the state legislature. ... Certain port activities are, of course, subject to federal law and jurisdiction, particularly those pertaining to foreign and interstate commerce.

    Before the UAE controversy erupted, most Americans probably did not know that many US ports are already owned or run by private corporations, some of which are owned by foreign governments. According to the New York Times, foreign-based companies own and/or manage over 30% of US port terminals. According to Time Magazine, over 80% of the terminals in the Port of Los Angeles are run by foreign-owned companies, including the government of Singapore. In fact, APL Limited, controlled by the Singapore government, operates ports in Los Angeles, Oakland, Seattle and Dutch Harbor, Alaska. Chinese government-owned companies control terminals in the Port of Los Angeles and other West Coast ports, as well as both ends of the Panama Canal.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-a...s-owne_b_16325
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionfish View Post
    A port operator is port authority or company that contracts with the port authority to move cargo through a port at a contracted minimum level of productivity. They may be state-owned (particularly for port authorities) or privately run.
    Nothing moves through an (international) port without the say so of the federal government. The Constitution gives the federal government authority over ports. When trump was letting diseased foreigners into the USA, California threatened to cutoff the port, because they could not cutoff the ships from the port.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Nothing moves through an (international) port without the say so of the federal government. The Constitution gives the federal government authority over ports. When trump was letting diseased foreigners into the USA, California threatened to cutoff the port, because they could not cutoff the ships from the port.
    So you are telling us this entire supply chain fuckup is biden's fault. Thank you for waking up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Putin was bitching about inflation and goods not getting through today. Must be that regulation and Biden at fault.
    Yes it was his fault

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    This feels like a political stunt. I would need to get told how much cargo the state thinks they can handle, and I mean all the way handle, get stuff on and off ships and to where it goes or out of the state, sustainably over months.

    If the numbers are significant...high enough to care about...... then I would need to see it accomplished.

    I doubt there is much capacity.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    and increased demand and volume. shit happens and it takes a capitalist, private enterprise system longer to adjust than a communist or fascist government controlled economy where they can order people to work there, to work overtime, to do what it takes by force and authoritarian rule. is that what repubs want? democracy and capitalism are messy, a little haphazard, but the only systems worth living in.
    Wrong. In a Communist or Fascist system, the government covers the problem up, offers excuses and propaganda to the public, and at worst might shoot a few managers over it. The mess is then allowed to continue until it becomes the norm.

    In a Capitalist system, the shippers start rerouting their ships to other ports-- this is happening now and some of the ships are now going to Texas and Florida to unload rather than sit off California--so they stop losing money having their ships sit.

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    If this is more political gamesmanship than reality from the Fl Gov I would hold it against him, and try to remember.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    If you mean lead the way in COVID cases because they aren't taking precautions and regulating things, you'd be right. Sorry if your cheap overseas crap can't get here fast enough. Most foodstuff shortages are not connected to the ports though as they don't travel the ports.
    You might want to catch up on your China virus statistics.
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