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    Default Healthcare in America - What a JOKE!

    The "BEST" in the World?


    Sick and Elderly Black Man Discharged from Hospital Found on Sidewalk Because Medicare Stopped Paying for Care


    An unidentified elderly Black man was found on a sidewalk in Conyers, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta, with medical tubes still attached after being discharged from a hospital nearby because Medicare would not continue coverage for his treatment.

    The 68-year-old man was discovered collapsed near the Piedmont Rockdale Hospital on Thursday, Oct. 14. According to a 911 caller, he appeared unresponsive and in need of medical assistance.

    “Poor guy. But he probably needs an ambulance and not…” the 911 caller said, according to WSB-TV. “It’s right in front of the Piedmont Rockdale Emergency entrance.”

    Conyers Police Deputy Chief Scott Freeman told reporters that, according to a hospital employee, the man was in the hospital’s care for 35 days for unidentified treatment and was cleared as “fit to leave” by two doctors when the hospital was notified that Medicare would not continue paying for his care.

    He was dressed by security, who then escorted him off the premises.

    When medical responders arrived to treat the man after the 911 call, he was found to have “sepsis, a high heart rate, fever, a urinary tract infection, and a possible bladder infection.”

    “Common sense dictates that you do not treat human beings the way that we’re seeing in this particular case,” said Freeman, who plans on filing a report on the incident with the Georgia Department of Community Affairs.

    “This man is laying out on the sidewalk unresponsive, and this is how they brought him out,” he stated. “They escorted him off the property and just left him on the sidewalk. This is inhumane; this is not who we are as a city, as a county, or even as a country. Or at least it shouldn’t be.”

    At the time of this writing, Medicare had not prepared a statement.

    Piedmont Healthcare addressed the incident, insinuating that the patient did not want continued services, saying that while they “do their best to connect patients in need” with “appropriate after-hospital care,” whether or not the services are accepted is “at the discretion of the patient.”

    “At Piedmont, our purpose is to make a positive difference in every life we touch. We can only provide the best care with the cooperation and consent of the patient. We do our best to connect patients in need with community partners and social service organizations to provide appropriate after-hospital care, but ultimately accepting these services is at the discretion of the patient.”

    No further updates have been given on the patient’s condition, however, he was taken back to the emergency room the same day he was released.

    https://www.yahoo.com/now/inhumane-s...150000711.html
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Yea, yea... Like you get treated better by socialized medicine...

    England’s poorest people get worse NHS care than its wealthiest citizens, including longer waiting for A&E treatment and worse experience of GP services, a study shows.

    Those from the most deprived areas have fewer hip replacements and are admitted to hospital with bed sores more often than people from the least deprived areas.

    With regard to emergency care, 14.3% of the most deprived had to wait more than the supposed maximum of four hours to be dealt with in A&E in 2017-18, compared with 12.8% of the wealthiest. Similarly, just 64% of the former had a good experience making a GP appointment, compared with 72% of those from the richest areas.
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...hiest-citizens

    The UK has one of the worst healthcare systems in the developed world according to a damning new report which said the nation has an “outstandingly poor” record of preventing ill health.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a6721401.html

    And it isn't just the UK most socialized medical systems offer long waits, poor service, and indifferent outcomes. Those working in those systems have zero incentive to do a better job. Mediocrity is the norm. Administrators want to keep costs down so they cut corners on the budget. Staff are overworked so they grow indifferent to patients. Regulations and rules abound meaning if you don't fit the pattern for some healthcare need, you are screwed.

    The US system has its problems, some serious, but that doesn't mean it's significantly worse than universal socialized healthcare systems that have serious problems too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    The "BEST" in the World?


    Sick and Elderly Black Man Discharged from Hospital Found on Sidewalk Because Medicare Stopped Paying for Care


    An unidentified elderly Black man was found on a sidewalk in Conyers, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta, with medical tubes still attached after being discharged from a hospital nearby because Medicare would not continue coverage for his treatment.

    The 68-year-old man was discovered collapsed near the Piedmont Rockdale Hospital on Thursday, Oct. 14. According to a 911 caller, he appeared unresponsive and in need of medical assistance.

    “Poor guy. But he probably needs an ambulance and not…” the 911 caller said, according to WSB-TV. “It’s right in front of the Piedmont Rockdale Emergency entrance.”

    Conyers Police Deputy Chief Scott Freeman told reporters that, according to a hospital employee, the man was in the hospital’s care for 35 days for unidentified treatment and was cleared as “fit to leave” by two doctors when the hospital was notified that Medicare would not continue paying for his care.

    He was dressed by security, who then escorted him off the premises.

    When medical responders arrived to treat the man after the 911 call, he was found to have “sepsis, a high heart rate, fever, a urinary tract infection, and a possible bladder infection.”

    “Common sense dictates that you do not treat human beings the way that we’re seeing in this particular case,” said Freeman, who plans on filing a report on the incident with the Georgia Department of Community Affairs.

    “This man is laying out on the sidewalk unresponsive, and this is how they brought him out,” he stated. “They escorted him off the property and just left him on the sidewalk. This is inhumane; this is not who we are as a city, as a county, or even as a country. Or at least it shouldn’t be.”

    At the time of this writing, Medicare had not prepared a statement.

    Piedmont Healthcare addressed the incident, insinuating that the patient did not want continued services, saying that while they “do their best to connect patients in need” with “appropriate after-hospital care,” whether or not the services are accepted is “at the discretion of the patient.”

    “At Piedmont, our purpose is to make a positive difference in every life we touch. We can only provide the best care with the cooperation and consent of the patient. We do our best to connect patients in need with community partners and social service organizations to provide appropriate after-hospital care, but ultimately accepting these services is at the discretion of the patient.”

    No further updates have been given on the patient’s condition, however, he was taken back to the emergency room the same day he was released.

    https://www.yahoo.com/now/inhumane-s...150000711.html
    Yet you want the govt to have more control over healthcare.

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    I have Canadians in the family. When we get together I ask them if they would prefer our system. They laugh in my face.
    Universal healthcare is far better for the people. It allows you to switch jobs without coverage lapses. It allows you to start a business without having to pay bigly for health insurance. It allows people to get health maintenance.
    Out system has long waits. Call a specialist and see how long you wait When I call my doc, I get an appointment in about 3 weeks. I have a Canadian friend who got a heart transplant about 10 years ago. He paid nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    Healthcare in America - What a JOKE!
    The "BEST" in the World?
    So you're admitting that Obamacare is a massive failure now. Got it

    Have you ever experienced any other countries health care systems?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Yea, yea... Like you get treated better by socialized medicine...


    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...hiest-citizens


    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a6721401.html

    And it isn't just the UK most socialized medical systems offer long waits, poor service, and indifferent outcomes. Those working in those systems have zero incentive to do a better job. Mediocrity is the norm. Administrators want to keep costs down so they cut corners on the budget. Staff are overworked so they grow indifferent to patients. Regulations and rules abound meaning if you don't fit the pattern for some healthcare need, you are screwed.

    The US system has its problems, some serious, but that doesn't mean it's significantly worse than universal socialized healthcare systems that have serious problems too.
    Canada's system is no better than the UKs. Probably worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Yet you want the govt to have more control over healthcare.
    Dumbasses like Zappas want government to have much more. Control over our speech. Control over our election systems. Control over our electrical grid. Control over our energy.

    They can't comprehend what Marxist dumbasses they have become. They are getting more desperate with time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    I have Canadians in the family. When we get together I ask them if they would prefer our system. They laugh in my face.
    My wife is Canadian and I am calling your bullshit. They don't know anything about our system except what Marxist douchebags in the media tell them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Universal healthcare is far better for the people. It allows you to switch jobs without coverage lapses. It allows you to start a business without having to pay bigly for health insurance. It allows people to get health maintenance.
    This is nothing more than a pile of propaganda bile snowflake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Out system has long waits. Call a specialist and see how long you wait When I call my doc, I get an appointment in about 3 weeks. I have a Canadian friend who got a heart transplant about 10 years ago. He paid nothing.
    You just described the Canadian health care system dumbass.

    Isn't it ironic that the same lying leftist dumbasses that declared Obamacare was the end all solution now claim it is a failure and want a worse system? Leftists really are the dumbest lying assholes on the planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Address the topic, not other posters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Yea, yea... Like you get treated better by socialized medicine...


    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...hiest-citizens


    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-a6721401.html

    And it isn't just the UK most socialized medical systems offer long waits, poor service, and indifferent outcomes. Those working in those systems have zero incentive to do a better job. Mediocrity is the norm. Administrators want to keep costs down so they cut corners on the budget. Staff are overworked so they grow indifferent to patients. Regulations and rules abound meaning if you don't fit the pattern for some healthcare need, you are screwed.

    The US system has its problems, some serious, but that doesn't mean it's significantly worse than universal socialized healthcare systems that have serious problems too.
    You DO!

    Even if wait times are a bit longer, when you get out of the hospital you don't have to DECLARE BANKRUPTCY.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So you're admitting that Obamacare is a massive failure now. Got it

    Have you ever experienced any other countries health care systems?
    ObamaCare had NOTHING to do with that man being put out on the curb for not being able to pay.

    But NICE JOB in deflecting from the real subject so you don't have to make a bigger fool of yourself.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    My wife is Canadian and I am calling your bullshit. They don't know anything about our system except what Marxist douchebags in the media tell them.

    This is nothing more than a pile of propaganda bile snowflake.

    You just described the Canadian health care system dumbass.

    Isn't it ironic that the same lying leftist dumbasses that declared Obamacare was the end all solution now claim it is a failure and want a worse system? Leftists really are the dumbest lying assholes on the planet.
    As usual, you offer no proof to back up your claims, just more of the typically infantile Truth Rejector name calling.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakuda View Post
    Yet you want the govt to have more control over healthcare.
    And you want to bankrupt the poor...how very CHRISTIAN of you.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    The "BEST" in the World?


    Sick and Elderly Black Man Discharged from Hospital Found on Sidewalk Because Medicare Stopped Paying for Care


    An unidentified elderly Black man was found on a sidewalk in Conyers, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta, with medical tubes still attached after being discharged from a hospital nearby because Medicare would not continue coverage for his treatment.

    The 68-year-old man was discovered collapsed near the Piedmont Rockdale Hospital on Thursday, Oct. 14. According to a 911 caller, he appeared unresponsive and in need of medical assistance.

    “Poor guy. But he probably needs an ambulance and not…” the 911 caller said, according to WSB-TV. “It’s right in front of the Piedmont Rockdale Emergency entrance.”

    Conyers Police Deputy Chief Scott Freeman told reporters that, according to a hospital employee, the man was in the hospital’s care for 35 days for unidentified treatment and was cleared as “fit to leave” by two doctors when the hospital was notified that Medicare would not continue paying for his care.

    He was dressed by security, who then escorted him off the premises.

    When medical responders arrived to treat the man after the 911 call, he was found to have “sepsis, a high heart rate, fever, a urinary tract infection, and a possible bladder infection.”

    “Common sense dictates that you do not treat human beings the way that we’re seeing in this particular case,” said Freeman, who plans on filing a report on the incident with the Georgia Department of Community Affairs.

    “This man is laying out on the sidewalk unresponsive, and this is how they brought him out,” he stated. “They escorted him off the property and just left him on the sidewalk. This is inhumane; this is not who we are as a city, as a county, or even as a country. Or at least it shouldn’t be.”

    At the time of this writing, Medicare had not prepared a statement.

    Piedmont Healthcare addressed the incident, insinuating that the patient did not want continued services, saying that while they “do their best to connect patients in need” with “appropriate after-hospital care,” whether or not the services are accepted is “at the discretion of the patient.”

    “At Piedmont, our purpose is to make a positive difference in every life we touch. We can only provide the best care with the cooperation and consent of the patient. We do our best to connect patients in need with community partners and social service organizations to provide appropriate after-hospital care, but ultimately accepting these services is at the discretion of the patient.”

    No further updates have been given on the patient’s condition, however, he was taken back to the emergency room the same day he was released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    GO TO CUBA...
    Precisely the special brand of uninformed ignorance I've come to expect from you...
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    The "BEST" in the World?


    Sick and Elderly Black Man Discharged from Hospital Found on Sidewalk Because Medicare Stopped Paying for Care


    An unidentified elderly Black man was found on a sidewalk in Conyers, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta, with medical tubes still attached after being discharged from a hospital nearby because Medicare would not continue coverage for his treatment.

    The 68-year-old man was discovered collapsed near the Piedmont Rockdale Hospital on Thursday, Oct. 14. According to a 911 caller, he appeared unresponsive and in need of medical assistance.

    “Poor guy. But he probably needs an ambulance and not…” the 911 caller said, according to WSB-TV. “It’s right in front of the Piedmont Rockdale Emergency entrance.”

    Conyers Police Deputy Chief Scott Freeman told reporters that, according to a hospital employee, the man was in the hospital’s care for 35 days for unidentified treatment and was cleared as “fit to leave” by two doctors when the hospital was notified that Medicare would not continue paying for his care.

    He was dressed by security, who then escorted him off the premises.

    When medical responders arrived to treat the man after the 911 call, he was found to have “sepsis, a high heart rate, fever, a urinary tract infection, and a possible bladder infection.”

    “Common sense dictates that you do not treat human beings the way that we’re seeing in this particular case,” said Freeman, who plans on filing a report on the incident with the Georgia Department of Community Affairs.

    “This man is laying out on the sidewalk unresponsive, and this is how they brought him out,” he stated. “They escorted him off the property and just left him on the sidewalk. This is inhumane; this is not who we are as a city, as a county, or even as a country. Or at least it shouldn’t be.”

    At the time of this writing, Medicare had not prepared a statement.

    Piedmont Healthcare addressed the incident, insinuating that the patient did not want continued services, saying that while they “do their best to connect patients in need” with “appropriate after-hospital care,” whether or not the services are accepted is “at the discretion of the patient.”

    “At Piedmont, our purpose is to make a positive difference in every life we touch. We can only provide the best care with the cooperation and consent of the patient. We do our best to connect patients in need with community partners and social service organizations to provide appropriate after-hospital care, but ultimately accepting these services is at the discretion of the patient.”

    No further updates have been given on the patient’s condition, however, he was taken back to the emergency room the same day he was released.

    https://www.yahoo.com/now/inhumane-s...150000711.html
    You are pointing out here a failure by the Govt to pay for the healthcare of one of its citizens. And you think they will do a better job with more people? LMAO!

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