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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    The woman who said this claimed that example had come up from the concerned parents

    They wanted alternate facts to the Holocaust offered in school
    Yes, she no doubt was trying to find a way for the teachers to keep the parents off their backs. Based on my experience teachers get away with teaching whatever they want (or nothing at all). It is only if they get too extreme do kids tell their parents about what happens in the classroom.

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    https://forward.com/fast-forward/476...ing-holocaust/



    Gasps and sounds of nervous laughter can be heard on the recording, as one teacher asks aloud, “How do you oppose the Holocaust?”

    Peddy responds: “Believe me. That’s come up.”

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    It’s the asshole racists who now show up to schools and scrram at everyone and threaten everyone


    Racists need to be publicly shamed not cow towed to

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Questioning known history in this case is neo nazi bullshit
    A couple of years ago, The History Channel presented a two-hour program about forensic specialists looking for evidence at one of the concentration camps. They were looking for evidence of gas chambers, remains of human ashes. They found no evidence of the ovens or much of anything. The conclusion: the Germans were good at hiding things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    True. That is why the superintendent apologized for the suggestion made by the curriculum specialist. And, nobody is sure what topics would be included under the new law.

    If anyone wants an alternative view read the posts by Jeffrey Spaeth on JPP. He says it did not happen.
    Well, I have it on good authority that it did. My dad. He was the intel officer of the unit that discovered the first camp (discovered by the allied forces). Shortly after this Ike turned up (due to his report). I've got original photos or Ohrdruff. Jeff is apparently an idiot.

    Want a controversial subject ? Try "settled science".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Well, I have it on good authority that it did. My dad. He was the intel officer of the unit that discovered the first camp (discovered by the allied forces). Shortly after this Ike turned up (due to his report). I've got original photos or Ohrdruff. Jeff is apparently an idiot.

    Want a controversial subject ? Try "settled science".
    The Holocaust deniers claimed that was a cover-up by the Allies for the fact that they killed millions of civilians.

    I don't know how they explain the films of Allied troops entering the camps. Maybe "crisis actors"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Holocaust is not controversial. It happened, ample proof.
    That's why it was a "poor example", as the OP said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    When I was in school, I was taught that the Holocaust involved Nazis rounding up and exterminating six million Jews in concentration camps.

    But Texas, being the progressive openminded state that it is has insisted that texts teach an alternate narrative. Maybe some 'conservatives' here can lay out those alternative narratives. I'm interested.
    It's Texas, no one needs any further explanation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    When I was in school, I was taught that the Holocaust involved Nazis rounding up and exterminating six million Jews in concentration camps.

    But Texas, being the progressive openminded state that it is has insisted that texts teach an alternate narrative. Maybe some 'conservatives' here can lay out those alternative narratives. I'm interested.
    You the one that stated they were teaching an alternate narrative..out those alternative narratives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    You the one that stated they were teaching an alternate narrative..out those alternative narratives?
    No, I do believe he was stating that Texas wanted the alternative narrative to be covered, and was inquiring as to what would be the alternative narrative that Texas seems so important to include

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Flash,



    I was wondering just exactly what 'the other side' story was. WWII didn't happen?
    why dont u tell us how the Holocaust is taught to Palestinians!

    we will wait

    your side supports the Palestinians...we support Texas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Not true. One curriculum specialist used that as an example to meet the new Texas law requiring controversial subjects to be approached from differing perspectives. She suggested if a teacher had a book in the classroom on the Holocaust to include a book on the "other side." She realized she used a poor example and the superintendent apologized saying they recognized there was not another side to the Holocaust.

    The Texas law was aimed at teaching critical race theory but nobody is clear how to meet the requirements of the law and she used a poor example.
    Thanks. That was my take on the limited info that was first passed around when the news broke. The comment sounded to me to be either sarcasm or taken way out of context.

    So... what's the "other side" of slavery in America? What's the other side of the KKK and Jim Crow laws? What's the other side of the Japanese-American internment camps and confiscation of their property?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Controlled Opposition View Post
    The Devil is in the details. Questioning some of those details is not holocaust denial.
    Which details should be questioned?
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    Hello Flash,

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I think it is inappropriate to teach any political ideology. Of course, it all depends on what is included in the nebulous term CRT. It is actually a concept from law school dealing with racially discriminatory laws, but it has been expanded to mean whatever the proponents or opponents want it to mean.

    If it involves, for example, white students having to stand up and admit their white privilege or that they are oppressors that is inappropriate education. Even if you believe that is true, it is no more appropriate than having a kid stand and admit they are obese. It is poor education. There are too many other useful things to teach in education besides anything to create more racial conflict.
    Well that's the spin. No part of CRT requires students to admit anything about themselves. It is not about them. It is a theory about how the discrimination of racism might be offset through government policy.

    It's already taught in college, anyway. The whole dispute is really about whether or not the same thing which is already taught on college with no objection should be taught in high school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Which details should be questioned?
    Ask the Muslims they are the biggest holocaust deniers in the world and u love them

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