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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    obviously there is.......but you don't do obvious.....
    pulling snot out of his ass isnt something that needs refuting
    Why Biden? Because Fuck You that's why. Barack Obama has a Grammy, an Emmy, a Nobel Prize, 2 terms as President and a Twitter account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAGA View Post
    REALITY CHECK: At a neighborhood BBQ I was talking to a neighbor, a BC Hydro Executive. I asked him how that renewable thing was doing. He laughed, then got serious "If you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, you have to face certain realities."

    "For example, a home charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp service. The average house is equipped with 100 amp service. On our small street (approximately 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than three houses with a single Tesla each. For even half the homes to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly over-loaded. This is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles. Our residential infrastructure cannot bear the load."

    So, as our genius elected officials promote this nonsense, not only are we being urged to buy these things and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems with expensive new windmills and solar cells, but we will also have to renovate our entire delivery system! This later "investment" will not be revealed until we're so far down this deadend road that it will be presented with an 'OOPS...!' and a shrug.

    Eric test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors and he writes, "For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine." Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9-gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles.

    It will take you 4.5 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip, your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.

    According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned, so I looked up what I pay for electricity.

    I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 Mpg = $0.10 per mile.

    The gasoline powered car costs about $25,000 while the Volt costs $46,000 plus. So, the Government wants us to pay twice as much for a car, that costs more than seven times as much to run and takes three times longer to drive across the country.


    WAKE UP NORTH AMERICA!!!!!!!
    I have a 2015 Volt. It has the highest customer ratings over and over for any GM car. I get huge mileage
    . I get about 45 miles per charge, a little less in winter. I very rarely drive more than 50 miles in a day. The computer sometimes runs the car on the motor because the gas will get stale if it just sits in the tank. The computer shows I get way over 100 MPG.
    Depending on what kind of charger you have, the car can charge in less than an hour.
    My son has a Volt and a Bolt.
    The Volt has 50 miles of electric and over 300 of gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAGA View Post
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    The gasoline powered car costs about $25,000 while the Volt costs $46,000 plus. So, the Government wants us to pay twice as much for a car, that costs more than seven times as much to run and takes three times longer to drive across the country.[/SIZE]
    Oh. Another little wrong fact in your rant. In 2019, the cost for a new Volt ranged from $23,000 to $28,000.
    So, it costs about the same, costs less to run for short trips and takes the same amount of time to drive across country.

    And the Volt can charge in about 2.3 hours with a 240 volt charger.
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    "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do."

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Forty years ago there were no cell phone towers.

    That appears to have been addressed.

    The internal combustion engine automobile has given us over 130 years of service.
    It did its job, and for the most part, did it very well.

    I'm not super adept at driving a horse drawn carriage.
    The next generation needn't know how to drive and maintain a gasoline motorcar.
    It's simply time to move on.
    That's not an argument. Are cell phone towers inefficient? Are cell phone plans ruinous to one's monthly/annual budget when compared to potential alternative options?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Why don't you provide support for MAGA's post by telling us where in the US electricity costs $1.16 per kwh?

    Here are recent numbers for electricity costs per the EIA
    https://www.eia.gov/electricity/mont...p?t=epmt_5_6_a
    because you're the one denying what he said.....do your numbers include subsidies?.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    pulling snot out of his ass isnt something that needs refuting
    well it is when it's better than the snot in your own ass......
    Isaiah 6:5
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Can't read MAGA's post but the instrumentation on those things must be awesome.

    Check battery.
    Check tire pressure.
    Check reality.
    Reality is those vehicles are not viable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Oh. Another little wrong fact in your rant. In 2019, the cost for a new Volt ranged from $23,000 to $28,000.
    So, it costs about the same, costs less to run for short trips and takes the same amount of time to drive across country.

    And the Volt can charge in about 2.3 hours with a 240 volt charger.
    Please buy one and document your cross-country trip!

    I doubt it can be done without calling a tow truck.

    I've driven cross-country. In a Chevy van with a 350 and and a 4-barrel. :tongueout:

    Also in a minivan. And a Cadillac. 3/4 of the way in a Winnbago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    because you're the one denying what he said.....do your numbers include subsidies?.....
    good point, subsidies for big oil do count.
    Why Biden? Because Fuck You that's why. Barack Obama has a Grammy, an Emmy, a Nobel Prize, 2 terms as President and a Twitter account.

    Donald Trump has 2 impeachments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Please buy one and document your cross-country trip!

    I've driven cross-country. In a Chevy van with a 350 and and a 4-barrel. :tongueout:

    Also in a minivan. And a Cadillac. 3/4 of the way in a Winnbago.
    plenty have done that, back in your mothers basement
    Why Biden? Because Fuck You that's why. Barack Obama has a Grammy, an Emmy, a Nobel Prize, 2 terms as President and a Twitter account.

    Donald Trump has 2 impeachments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Please buy one and document your cross-country trip!

    I've driven cross-country. In a Chevy van with a 350 and and a 4-barrel. :tongueout:

    Also in a minivan. And a Cadillac. 3/4 of the way in a Winnbago.
    what a pointless comment
    Why Biden? Because Fuck You that's why. Barack Obama has a Grammy, an Emmy, a Nobel Prize, 2 terms as President and a Twitter account.

    Donald Trump has 2 impeachments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    plenty have done that, back in your mothers basement
    Proof?

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    what a pointless comment
    Not really, bitch. You're not going to make it trying to go coast to coast in a Volt.

    Ofc that's what they want. They don't people to be as mobile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Not really, bitch. You're not going to make it trying to go coast to coast in a Volt.

    Ofc that's what they want. They don't people to be as mobile.
    Okay let me acquaint you with some reality I know that's not your thing because you spend all your time either taking meth or drinking everclear. There's no way you're going to make it coast to coast in any ice car You're going to have to stop at a gas station. Stopping at a gas station takes about as much time as recharging the newer electric cars. The fact that you're such a dumbass inbred moron should embarrass the hell out of you but you're too damn stupid to be embarrassed. A lot of people especially younger people work remote now and aren't going to own a car and they're just going to rent a car on the rare occasion they go on a road trip. Younger people are so disgusted with the congestion on freeways that they just assume take transit. This is all stuff that is common information this is all stuff educated people know but being that you're a meth addict drunk on everclear and totally uneducated this is all stuff that you wouldn't know.
    Why Biden? Because Fuck You that's why. Barack Obama has a Grammy, an Emmy, a Nobel Prize, 2 terms as President and a Twitter account.

    Donald Trump has 2 impeachments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    well it is when it's better than the snot in your own ass......
    Wow that was clever
    Why Biden? Because Fuck You that's why. Barack Obama has a Grammy, an Emmy, a Nobel Prize, 2 terms as President and a Twitter account.

    Donald Trump has 2 impeachments.

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