Reality check on electric cars

[katzgar]

Lots of people do where I live. Even people in California often commute much further than that. There, they often have little choice. Housing prices being what they are the only affordable one is often as much as 100 miles or more from where they work.

I and many of my neighbors do service work, HVAC, electrical, plumbing, etc. There are pickups and service trucks all up and down the street. Not one of us could use an electric car. My last call for an emergency service entry repair was nearly 50 miles from home one-way. You need a truck, and carry upwards of half-a-ton or more of tools and parts. Electric vehicles won't work for that sort of person.

nothing has a 45 mile range, this has been explained to you. The range of the RIVIAN will be just over 300 miles. Why are you so determined to be a moron and a liar?

[katzgar]

deducting search expenses is not actually a subsidy, you know......

what I know is you are a sleazy liar... https://www.vox.com/energy-and-envir...-oil-subsidies

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

this has been explained to you already. First, your assumption that the future of EV's is based on current tech is moronic. Second, your assumption that future transport will be based on current usage is moronic. I am tired of explaining shit to you multiple times...get back in your mothers basement.

you're a fucking idiot

[Doc Dutch]

But in the realm of modern cars, Gas is best for freedom. The oligarch fascists cant stop you cold by shutting off power.

They'll shut off the gasoline instead, dimwit.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

They'll shut off the gasoline instead, dimwit.

it's not instant. if you saved some up, you're good.

it's markedly better.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

They'll shut off the gasoline instead, dimwit.

at least you acknowledge the seige warfare declared by oligarchs on all human individuals.

[T. A. Gardner]

nothing has a 45 mile range, this has been explained to you. The range of the RIVIAN will be just over 300 miles. Why are you so determined to be a moron and a liar?

What does that have to do with what I posted? If this RIVAN has just over 300 miles range, then it's useless to me too. I have properties in rural AZ that are 150 + miles from my house one-way and there is no power on them and no charging stations anywhere near them. That means I'd run out of juice on a round trip unless I stopped somewhere there was a charging station (and I'd say right now there are none) and wasted an hour or more to charge back up.

Fuel cells are the way to go using hydrogen or anhydrous ammonia. Battery cars are a dead end and have been since about 1908...



The Edison electric had a brief surge of popularity then died off like the albatross it was.

[Poor Richard Saunders]

solar and wind energy get subsidies so it can compete with natural gas produced electricity.....

https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/aeo/pdf...generation.pdf

Wind is cheaper than natural gas even if subsidies are accounted for. Commercial solar installations are comparable to natural gas.

[Doc Dutch]

it's not instant. if you saved some up, you're good.

it's markedly better.

How old are you, really? What kind of work, if any, do you do?

Gasoline pumps are electric pumps.

For someone who favors anarchy, Fredo, you sure as shit don't know shit about what it would be like.

at least you acknowledge the seige warfare declared by oligarchs on all human individuals.

You are free to believe you win a gold star for 2th Grade Debate.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

How old are you, really? What kind of work, if any, do you do?

Gasoline pumps are electric pumps, idiot.

For someone who favors anarchy, Fredo, you sure as shit don't know shit about what it would be like.



You are free to believe you win a gold star for 2th Grade Debate.

gas cans in peoples homes are not on electric pumps.

and I don't favor anarchy. im not an anarchist.

[Doc Dutch]

gas cans in peoples homes are not on electric pumps.

and I don't favor anarchy. im not an anarchist.

Really, Fredo? How many gas cans do you think most people have? How many gallons total? How long do you think those individual supplies will last?

What are you then? Just an America hater?

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

Really, Fredo? How many gas cans do you think most people have? How many gallons total? How long do you think those individual supplies will last?

What are you then? Just an America hater?

Regardless of all those answers, gas is better, from a seige warfare perspective.

How did you get to anti-american, retarded fuck-nugget?

[Stringfellow Hawk]

Oh. Another little wrong fact in your rant. In 2019, the cost for a new Volt ranged from $23,000 to $28,000.
So, it costs about the same, costs less to run for short trips and takes the same amount of time to drive across country.

And the Volt can charge in about 2.3 hours with a 240 volt charger.

at a higher cost that a full size truck, holy shit

[T. A. Gardner]

Really, Fredo? How many gas cans do you think most people have? How many gallons total? How long do you think those individual supplies will last?

What are you then? Just an America hater?

If it were a long-term 'survival' thing, you could just go to wood gas instead...



Low tech and your fuel supply is pretty much omnipresent.

[Stringfellow Hawk]

The Volt is restricted to 100mph at top speed.

Acceleration in a Volt is greater than most 4 cylinder cars.

thats why volts and prius are always in the left lane on the interstate holding up traffic, they suck and anyone that vouches for the piece of shit sucks too