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Thread: China’s Ambitious Plans in Space: The Moon, Mars and Beyond

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    China is an Ethno-State. Doesn't surprise me they insist on 'Chinese' only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Like you know what those words mean!
    I know them well enough to both quote them and see you are not following them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    What is sensical about limiting the means available for defense of self and country, when those with real criminal intent will ignore that law anyway, and where is the sense in surrendering the means of having last resort power over your government should it decide to ignore it's constitutional limits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    China is an Ethno-State. Doesn't surprise me they insist on 'Chinese' only.
    The Russians are already working with them on both the space station and lunar projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Nothing said about a base the statement was this
    Based on funding and plans, China will beat the US to the Moon and Mars.
    Correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    The Russians are already working with them on both the space station and lunar projects.
    Yeah. Two Totalitarian States. Any reason to worry about 'Space' being militarized?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Yeah. Two Totalitarian States. Any reason to worry about 'Space' being militarized?
    You mean they weren't worried during the 60's? And Reagan wasn't worried?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    What is sensical about limiting the means available for defense of self and country, when those with real criminal intent will ignore that law anyway, and where is the sense in surrendering the means of having last resort power over your government should it decide to ignore it's constitutional limits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    You mean they weren't worried during the 60's? And Reagan wasn't worried?
    I mean China is 'claiming' the South China Sea, maybe they will claim other things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Yeah. Two Totalitarian States. Any reason to worry about 'Space' being militarized?
    A lot but between Trump and the Democrats, I doubt we'll do much more than surrender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    A lot but between Trump and the Democrats, I doubt we'll do much more than surrender.
    It might come down to 'Money'. We may be too poor to do much about anything.

    (China's Bullet Train goes 200 mph. Amtrak goes 45 mph)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    What did our moon base look like? I must have missed it,
    There are plans for a mobile base in 2024....which is governmentese for 2030.

    The Chinese have their funding plans laid out. Ours is dependent upon Trump and the Democrats getting along. All the idiots on this forum are talking civil war, but they also think we can unite to beat the Chinese? LOL

    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard...ater-elevation
    American astronauts in 2024 will take their first steps near the Moon’s South Pole: the land of extreme light, extreme darkness, and frozen water that could fuel NASA’s Artemis lunar base and the agency’s leap into deep space.

    Scientists and engineers are helping NASA determine the precise location of the Artemis Base Camp concept. Among the many things NASA must take into account in choosing a specific location are two key features: The site must bask in near continuous sunlight to power the base and moderate extreme temperature swings, and it must offer easy access to areas of complete darkness that hold water ice...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    It might come down to 'Money'. We may be too poor to do much about anything.

    (China's Bullet Train goes 200 mph. Amtrak goes 45 mph)
    Funding. Can't keep cutting taxes and blowing the money everywhere but science without it impacting NASA.

    NASA gets about 0.48% of the federal budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    You mean they weren't worried during the 60's? And Reagan wasn't worried?
    Absolutely they were worried, but the US was united against them. Now, not so much. Between Russia Don and China Joe, we're screwed.


    Our grandkids will be buying Chinese astronaut action figures for Christmas in a few years.

    Thanks Trump!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Funding. Can't keep cutting taxes and blowing the money everywhere but science without it impacting NASA.

    NASA gets about 0.48% of the federal budget.

    NASA. Isn't that a SOE? (State Owned Enterprise) Might be better to leave Space to Private Enterprise, ... like Bezos, to solve these problems. (?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    NASA. Isn't that a SOE? (State Owned Enterprise) Might be better to leave Space to Private Enterprise, ... like Bezos, to solve these problems. (?)
    Will Bezos beat the Chinese to the Moon? No.

    Bezos will be running the greatest space tourism industry known to man. He needs more rockets, more pilots and, eventually, his own space station as a hotel.

    Elon Musk wants to go to Mars but already said it'd be a one-way trip. Even if he did beat the Chinese to Mars, they'd have to wait for the Chinese to show up to go home.


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