7 mind-blowing facts that show why employment in the US is the worst in the developed

[Geeko Sportivo]

I do......I consider "millennial" to be descriptive of a mindset rather than a generation

Here's what I think- There will always be good kids and good parents- and there will always be bad examples of parents and bad kids as well.

The trick is to prevent over-thinking things- It's always best to not generalize things.

[LV426]

Why? The corporation as a legal entity has worked out tremendously for nations and society. Without it, we'd be far worse off economically.

You just said that a corporation has no responsibility to the nation in which it was chartered.

So if that's the case, then it doesn't have personhood because that would imply corporate responsibility, just as you and I have a responsibility as citizens.

And it's debatable whether or not corporations have been good for society...

Certainly not going back 400 years to the creation and proliferation of the Atlantic Slave Trade.

Certainly not going back to the Gilded Age.

Certainly not going back 70 years to PFAS and the "forever chemicals".

Certainly not when it came to the tobacco industry lying about carcinogens.

Certainly not when it came to Exxon covering up the damage they were and are doing to the planet.

Certainly not when it came to Citizens United and the purchasing of our elections.

So...unless you have some miraculous benefit that corporations have bestowed upon humanity, it certainly seems that corporations have done more harm than good.

[Flash]

Hello Flash,

You don't think there is class warfare?

No more than we have ever had. There are strong political differences between the working class Republicans and Democratic college educated elite, but I don't think the elite want to keep the workers down or that the working class thinks they are being held down. A few years ago the working class was Democratic and the Republicans were business and professional people. I don't think anybody wanted to keep anyone down then or that people didn't have social mobility.

If you look at the Census Bureau mobility studies over 50% of those in the lower 20% have moved to higher levels ten years later. And, a large percentage of those in the top 20% have dropped to lower quintiles in ten years.

My attitudes about this changed a lot by the sociology and political science studies on community power structures.

[Truth Detector]

Read that article. That is the most absurd argument I've ever read. The US needs more socialism in employment... That's what that article amounts to. Maybe the writer should look at Japan or China some time and their treatment of workers.

The average Japanese worker does 10 to 12 hours per day and gets no overtime. 46 to 48 hours a week is the norm.

What the article does is cherry pick items from other nations and compare these to the US. Then the article argues that the solution is more government regulation and what amounts to more socialism.

As for which party cares about workers? Neither. The Democrats are pushing right now to force more workers into unions because unions support Democrats, as but one example of how both parties do things that aren't in worker's best interests.

Business Insider is a leftist tabloid filled with asinine lie filled articles. People who go to it are less than uninformed.

[Flash]

And the best way to ensure workers have a choice is Right-to-work. If they want a union, fine. If not, fine. Unions should not be able to monopolize labor through closed-shop laws. If the union is worth joining, workers will join. If not, then they won't. Giving unions the power to force workers into them is absolutely wrong.

Should those non-union employees get the same wage and benefit increases obtained by union bargaining?

Groups like AARP have that problem in that you don't have to join to get increased Social Security or Medicare benefits. That is why those groups offer publications, travel discounts, discounts on other products, and similar benefits to attract paying members.

[Truth Detector]

Since China is a communist country totally controlled by a small group of people that prohibit true input from the citizenry, and Japan is corporate dominated...the cooperation is between them, NOT by with or by their workers ... your entire screed collapses.

Next time, know WTF you're rambling on about before your fingers hit the keys...makes you look less foolish.

^Thinks he knows what he's talking about. So you agree with this moronic article? I wish you could take your own advice instead of prattling like an idiot.

[Truth Detector]

Unions are the only protection the US worker has. It's no surprise that Republicans hate unions.

That is a lie. Where do you get such Marxist babble? The best protection for US workers is by being a reliable hard worker. They are few and far between.

If you want to see UNION work up close and personal, go to your nearest DMV. Unions used to protect workers. Now, all they do is ruin the industries they represent and bloviate Marxist dogma.

Unions have been in decline for a reason. They're mostly represented in Government agencies. You can see why.

We need a worker uprising in the US. It's 2021 and US employment is still "at-will." Sure, it's technically illegal to fire an employee for trying to unionize or for discussing pay with coworkers, but that means nothing when your boss can fire you for literally no reason.

What boss fires a competent, reliable skilled worker? If you have a shitty boss, what laws are forcing you to stay?

[PoliTalker]

Hello Flash,

No more than we have ever had. There are strong political differences between the working class Republicans and Democratic college educated elite, but I don't think the elite want to keep the workers down or that the working class thinks they are being held down. A few years ago the working class was Democratic and the Republicans were business and professional people. I don't think anybody wanted to keep anyone down then or that people didn't have social mobility.

If you look at the Census Bureau mobility studies over 50% of those in the lower 20% have moved to higher levels ten years later. And, a large percentage of those in the top 20% have dropped to lower quintiles in ten years.

My attitudes about this changed a lot by the sociology and political science studies on community power structures.

LOL!

You think the elite is only Democrats?

Man, they use both parties at will to wage class warfare. The Republicans are a push-over for them.

Look at how much 'wealth' big coal has spread around West Virginia. One of the richest states in terms of resources yet one of the poorest states in terms of general wealth. That's the super-rich screwing the workers. And then they spend big to circulate plenty of PR to brainwash them into thinking Republican wannabes like Joe Manchin are on their side.

SMH.

Manchin is gonna lose his next shot at relection. He is in a no-win situation. It is amazing that state even has a Democratic Senator. The right wing PR has just been too strong. He's got one foot on the Democratic dock and the other on the Republican boat and the gap is widening.

He is a short-timer. He should go ahead and vote for the filibuster and all the AOC agenda. He has one chance to go out as a hero. He won't survive the next election. He needs to listen to Bernie.

[Truth Detector]

That poster seems steeped in right-wing anti-worker propaganda.

As opposed to your Marxist dogma? Dumbass.

[Flash]

Hello Flash,

LOL!

You think the elite is only Democrats?

Man, they use both parties at will to wage class warfare. The Republicans are a push-over for them.

Look at how much 'wealth' big coal has spread around West Virginia. One of the richest states in terms of resources yet one of the poorest states in terms of general wealth. That's the super-rich screwing the workers. And then they spend big to circulate plenty of PR to brainwash them into thinking Republican wannabes like Joe Manchin are on their side.

Who is the "they" that use both parties at will? The Deep State, Bildebergers, Rothchilds, New World Order?

SMH.

Manchin is gonna lose his next shot at relection. He is in a no-win situation. It is amazing that state even has a Democratic Senator. The right wing PR has just been too strong. He's got one foot on the Democratic dock and the other on the Republican boat and the gap is widening.

He is a short-timer. He should go ahead and vote for the filibuster and all the AOC agenda. He has one chance to go out as a hero. He won't survive the next election. He needs to listen to Bernie.

I did not say only Democrats are the elite. I said the education elite which distinguishes them from the working class Republican voters. Any warfare between these two groups is not economic but social issues such as immigration, abortion, culture and lifestyle....

I think most of the workers in West Virginia would side with the coal industry if it came to keeping their jobs. Sure, they would like more money, but they also prefer jobs in the coal industry to having no jobs. Mining is the best paying job in WV ($55,000). You saw what happened when Hillary said she wanted to put them out of business.

A majority of the public does not want the AOC agenda or the $3.5 trillion spending bill.

[The Sage of Main Street]

Exactly. But unions are losing members and don't want that so they want the Democrats and government to force workers into their unions.

A Union of Scientists Against Corporate-Patent Larceny Would Change Everything. But Scientists Are Nerdy Pushovers.

Why can't the workers who joined the union get the wages that the union bargained for; and the workers who didn't join get whatever the employer feels like paying them? Does Right to Work forbid separate wage scales?

[T. A. Gardner]

A Union of Scientists Against Corporate-Patent Larceny Would Change Everything. But Scientists Are Nerdy Pushovers.

Why can't the workers who joined the union get the wages that the union bargained for; and the workers who didn't join get whatever the employer feels like paying them? Does Right to Work forbid separate wage scales?

No. But often employers recognize that they need x number of employees and can only get some lessor amount with the union so they pay the same wages and benefits to get the employees they need.
In other cases, an employer simply starts off by paying good wages and benefits union or not.

Unions need to make the case that they are more than just there to get higher wages and more benefits for workers. They have to offer employers something along with all their members. So if a worker wants to move up and get more training the union should be there for them, but many unions aren't and really don't care if that happens. So, they lose support.

[LV426]

I think most of the workers in West Virginia would side with the coal industry if it came to keeping their jobs.

The coal industry only employs about 13,000 people in West Virginia.

Walmart employs more.

WVU employs the most.

Coal jobs don't even rank in the top 5 in WV. In fact, only 2 energy companies are in the top 10 employers in the state, and they're #7 and #10.

So who fucking cares about those jobs?

[The Sage of Main Street]

Except that there is a minimum wage, so there's that...

And/or except when the union gets its members to vote to agree to a strike for better wages...

And/or except when the business is getting a big, sweet, fat government contract....

Under those conditions, the executive can't simply just pay whatever they want to pay.




Wages are never going to be the reason a company goes under.

Bad management will be that reason 100% of the time because, newsflash, not every chief executive is competent at their job, and most small business owners are fucking idiots, half of whom will shut their businesses down by Year 5, and 66% will shut down by Year 10.

The Unearned Privilege of Inheritance Is a Well-Hidden Cancer That Has Destroyed Every Institution We Have

Perhaps this insight from David Halberstam's The Fifties will straighten out what is going on. All of you are missing the point; the world is not the way people in authority have told you it is.

C. Wright Mills, author of The Power Elite felt that the only thing that could stop the excesses of Capitalism would be powerful unions. Abbie Hoffman, a leader of the 60s Campus Commie Scum, when told he should work on organizing blue-collar workers screeched:

"Organize the workers? The workers want to beat the shit out of me!"

These conservative workers were called "hardhats." They were traditional Americans, so they had no solidarity with the degenerate rebels' agenda of multiculturalism, Gayism, tree-hugging, frigid femininnyism, etc.—all the puke the Democrat Party has adopted as its agenda, proving it is not democratic at all. In a democracy, the majority tells the government what they want. In this elitist Preppy Republic, the ignorant but conceited Statist snobs force the people to follow what this entitled HeirHead guillotine-fodder think is best for the majority, whether the majority likes it or not.

The prep school Abbie Hoffman went to charges $35,000 a year tuition. The Hippy movement was always a Preppy movement; its working-class followers joined only so they could sponge off the Preppies' money. We on the Internet can't quit avoiding this unmentioned key to understanding our times.

At age 18, all richkids must be cut off from Daddy's Money for good. That includes Conservatives ("Chickenhawks," their unAmerican privileges extend to a matter of life and death) and businessmen, too. The decline of American Capitalism was caused not by greedy unions or greedy bosses, but by birth-class nepotism. Hereditary power is the virus that took it down.

No one has a right to set his sons up halfway to the finish line. If he gets away with that much longer, real Americans must break his brats' legs and make them crawl the rest of the way. It is vital that everybody's property, power, and influence be earned, never again inherited.

[LV426]

The Unearned Privilege of Inheritance Is a Well-Hidden Cancer That Has Destroyed Every Institution We Have

Perhaps this insight from David Halberstam's The Fifties will straighten out what is going on. All of you are missing the point; the world is not the way people in authority have told you it is.

C. Wright Mills, author of The Power Elite felt that the only thing that could stop the excesses of Capitalism would be powerful unions. Abbie Hoffman, a leader of the 60s Campus Commie Scum, when told he should work on organizing blue-collar workers screeched:

"Organize the workers? The workers want to beat the shit out of me!"

These conservative workers were called "hardhats." They were traditional Americans, so they had no solidarity with the degenerate rebels' agenda of multiculturalism, Gayism, tree-hugging, frigid femininnyism, etc.—all the puke the Democrat Party has adopted as its agenda, proving it is not democratic at all. In a democracy, the majority tells the government what they want. In this elitist Preppy Republic, the ignorant but conceited Statist snobs force the people to follow what this entitled HeirHead guillotine-fodder think is best for the majority, whether the majority likes it or not.

The prep school Abbie Hoffman went to charges $35,000 a year tuition. The Hippy movement was always a Preppy movement; its working-class followers joined only so they could sponge off the Preppies' money. We on the Internet can't quit avoiding this unmentioned key to understanding our times.

At age 18, all richkids must be cut off from Daddy's Money for good. That includes Conservatives ("Chickenhawks," their unAmerican privileges extend to a matter of life and death) and businessmen, too. The decline of American Capitalism was caused not by greedy unions or greedy bosses, but by birth-class nepotism. Hereditary power is the virus that took it down.

No one has a right to set his sons up halfway to the finish line. If he gets away with that much longer, real Americans must break his brats' legs and make them crawl the rest of the way. It is vital that everybody's property, power, and influence be earned, never again inherited.

I tend to agree up to a certain point...I think it's reasonable for someone to pass their wealth and assets on to their heirs, but I think that wealth should be taxed as regular income, and capped so that anything over the cap goes right to the Treasury.

But I do think Adam Smith is correct when he talks about the poison of generational wealth.

Without it, Donald Trump would just be some crazy old person shitting himself in an asylum because his kids hate him.

Elon Musk would be some fucking burnout heroin addict living on the streets.