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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    I tend to agree up to a certain point...I think it's reasonable for someone to pass their wealth and assets on to their heirs, but I think that wealth should be taxed as regular income, and capped so that anything over the cap goes right to the Treasury.

    But I do think Adam Smith is correct when he talks about the poison of generational wealth.

    Without it, Donald Trump would just be some crazy old person shitting himself in an asylum because his kids hate him.

    Elon Musk would be some fucking burnout heroin addict living on the streets.
    These People Are the Natural Enemies of Human Progress

    Would it be reasonable if Derek Jeter had the privilege of passing on his position as Yankee shortstop to his son? This unearned set-up blocks the way of people with talent; it is socially and economically destructive, so no one has a right to do any of that. If we have to do it on our own, so must the children of the rich. We have no future unless we think that way. A society run by birth and not worth will decline and fall. Vital natural talent will always be cheated by the least bit of this "heiristocratic" tyranny.
    On the outside, trickling down on the Insiders

    We won't live free until the Democrats, and their voters, live in fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    No. But often employers recognize that they need x number of employees and can only get some lessor amount with the union so they pay the same wages and benefits to get the employees they need.
    In other cases, an employer simply starts off by paying good wages and benefits union or not.

    Unions need to make the case that they are more than just there to get higher wages and more benefits for workers. They have to offer employers something along with all their members. So if a worker wants to move up and get more training the union should be there for them, but many unions aren't and really don't care if that happens. So, they lose support.
    If the Corpies Own a Man's Work, They Own That Man

    Can't unions get in their contract that only union members get the wages they negotiated?
    On the outside, trickling down on the Insiders

    We won't live free until the Democrats, and their voters, live in fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    If the Corpies Own a Man's Work, They Own That Man

    Can't unions get in their contract that only union members get the wages they negotiated?
    That could be done. But the second a corporation decides to pay someone who is non-union more than the negotiated wage, standby! The union will go into major butthurt over that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    As opposed to your Marxist dogma? Dumbass.
    So I'm "marxist" because I care about workers' rights. Am I also "communist" for caring about consumer protections?

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    Quote Originally Posted by American Man View Post
    So I'm "marxist" because I care about workers' rights.
    No, you're a Marxist because you're an uneducated dullard who believes that BIG Government and one party systems are the answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by American Man View Post
    Am I also "communist" for caring about consumer protections?
    Wrong. See above dipshit.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    No, you're a Marxist because you're an uneducated dullard who believes that BIG Government and one party systems are the answer.



    Wrong. See above dipshit.
    So you believe that the American worker has it good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by American Man View Post
    So you believe that the American worker has it good?
    STRAWMAN. If you want a debate with me, use facts and be honest.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    STRAWMAN. If you want a debate with me, use facts and be honest.
    I'm trying to get you to focus on the topic at hand. Do you believe that the American worker has it good compared to workers of other developed nations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by American Man View Post
    I'm trying to get you to focus on the topic at hand. Do you believe that the American worker has it good compared to workers of other developed nations?
    Absolutely. Have you ever lived outside of the country dipshit? I was born in Germany. Lived in Germany and traveled Europe. I married a Canadian and live in both the US and Canada.

    I am betting you've never been outside of your mom's basement. There is a reason poor bastards from other countries are trying desperately to get here and not some taxed to death EuroDump. Be less stupid.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    Which party is the party representing the people again? Because I do tend to forget. Oh that's right, the lesser of two evils does now and then but what about on this issue?

    Wake up folks! It's rude to sleep when you are getting screwed.
    Which party represents which people--the 74 million who voted for Trump or the 81 million who voted for Biden? Seems like "the people" have very different views. It is impossible to represent all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Which party represents which people--the 74 million who voted for Trump or the 81 million who voted for Biden? Seems like "the people" have very different views. It is impossible to represent all of them.
    I doubt 81 million voted for Biden. But it was a miracle for sure.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I doubt 81 million voted for Biden. But it was a miracle for sure.
    But, you didn't actually count those votes like all the states did (some several times with audits) who arrived at that number.

    If Trump won 74 million it is easy to believe Biden got 81 given that Trump did not win the popular vote in 2016 or 2020 and whose support never reached 50%.

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    How many on the left here humming about unions are: a) Actually in one and paying dues b) A union employer paying the full wage and benefits? I expect the same crickets I get every time I ask this question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Absolutely. Have you ever lived outside of the country dipshit? I was born in Germany. Lived in Germany and traveled Europe. I married a Canadian and live in both the US and Canada.

    I am betting you've never been outside of your mom's basement. There is a reason poor bastards from other countries are trying desperately to get here and not some taxed to death EuroDump. Be less stupid.
    People from shithole countries are coming here because America is definitely better than those places. But that doesn't mean that Canadians or British or Japanese are flocking here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    But, you didn't actually count those votes like all the states did (some several times with audits) who arrived at that number.

    If Trump won 74 million it is easy to believe Biden got 81 given that Trump did not win the popular vote in 2016 or 2020 and whose support never reached 50%.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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