If the union is corrupt, and many are, doesn't care about the workers but rather about politics and internal enrichment--again many do this, then the union is really just screwing the workers and forcing them to join doesn't really help them.
The idea that a company can just hire outside workers isn't true for the majority of unions anymore. If a trade union like the IBEW (International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers) goes on strike you can't easily hire new skilled electricians. Sure, you might get a few, but you can't mass replace them.
The only unions that rely primarily on "strength in numbers" are labor unions filled with unskilled and semi-skilled workers who are replaceable cogs in a machine because they don't have any particular skills, education, or training that you can't get from your local zoo's monkey house.
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That has nothing to do with a union trying to recruit new members. In right-to-work states workers can--and often do--refuse to join the union where there is one. Only in closed shop states (few today and almost entirely Democrat run) can a union force membership of workers.
Now, if the union was a valuable and useful thing, workers would have an incentive to join wouldn't they? If on the other hand, the union was just fucking things up for workers they'd likely not want to join unless forced to.
The problem unions have is they mostly suck at what they do. That's why workers refuse to join or allow their company to be unionized. They see the union as a bigger bunch of assholes than their employer so they don't want the union. That's in simplest terms.
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Are you one of those boomers who complains that nobody wants to work shit jobs with shit pay and no benefits? People are finally waking up. Who wants to work in retail at $8/hr dealing with entitled pricks all day long? Who wants to work in a hot, dirty fast food place for minimum wage and no benefits? You guys call them "essential workers" and "heroes," but now you want to spit at them for refusing to lick your boots for peanuts.
You're still stuck in the 50's, maybe the 30's...
Fast food places aren't "dirty." They get regular inspections and there are lots of rules and regulations about cleanliness. Workers today even have to get a food handler's certificate to work there. They usually aren't "hot" either having air conditioning and OSHA rules about such things that have to be met.
Hell, even McDonald's offers benefits today...
Flexible work schedules
401K package
Tuition assistance
Life insurance
Health insurance
A bonus plan
Family and medical leave
While these might not be as generous as some corporation with a higher level of employee skills, education, and such, they're still offering that stuff, and all without a union.
Most large corporations with a skilled workforce offer great benefits, union or not.
Unions have lost their clout because they don't do anything for workers anymore. If they did, people would be willing to join.
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