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    Suddenly you go stupid when it comes to this subject? You just ignore the implications of the information THAT IS COMING FROM THE VERY SOURCES YOU TOUT TO SUPPORT YOUR CONTENTIONS. Then instead of using all the facts and the logic derived from said facts to debate the issue, you just blather demonization and denunciations of anyone who disagree with you or (gasp!) presents arguments you can't disprove or refute.

    C'mon Owl, you're better than this. Don't let fear rule your critical thinking skills.

    Sorry, Charlie, but I disagree with your anti-vax views. Period. Don't like it, then don't get it.
    A willfully ignorant and childish response. Let me educate you on something:

    1. Anti-vaxxers are people who are against any and all vaccinations at any age....they are a relatively small part of the population. People who have legitimate questions and can find factual and logical flaws in the declarations of the medical powers that be (mostly contradictions in their own public released papers) are NOT against any and all vaccines. then you have the rabid anti-gov't types who are against the federal gov't in general, coupled with the "deep state" conspiracy folks, who are now actually seeing some vestiges of their paranoia come to light.

    2. The Covid shots are NOT vaccines, but experimental gene therapy that artificially kick starts your immune system to respond to a SPECIFIC virus. This is why you "need" 2nd and 3rd shots within less than a year...because it's NOT fully utilizing your own immune system to deal with the dead cells of the virus and permanently create anti-bodies. Hell, I once had to get a tetnus shot for stepping on a rusty nail....didn't need another for 5 years if it happened again.

    3. Kid, you want to get the shot(s), then God be with you. As for me, it would seem that it depends on which state gives you a choice....some are going the "no jab, no job" route....got to wonder how long that will last before all hell breaks loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    People get "complications" from morbidities. geeeeez how hard is this? It's even in the OP title.
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    People of any age with the conditions listed below are more likely to get severely ill from COVID-19.
    COVID-19 vaccines (initial doses and boosters) and preventive measures for COVID-19 are important, especially if you are older or have multiple or severe health conditions including those on this list. Approved and authorized COVID-19 vaccines (initial doses and boosters) are safe and effective and should be administered to people at higher risk including people with underlying medical conditions.
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    The risk of severe COVID-19 increases as the number of underlying medical conditions increases in a person
    Long-standing systemic health and social inequities have put various groups of people at increased risk of getting sick and dying from COVID-19, including many people from certain racial and ethnic minority groups and people with disabilities.
    Studies have shown people from racial and ethnic minority groups are also dying from COVID-19 at younger ages. People in minority groups are often younger when they develop chronic medical conditions and may be more likely to have more than one condition.
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    COVID-19 vaccination (initial doses and boosters) and preventive measures for COVID-19 are important, especially if you are older or have multiple or severe health conditions. Learn more about CDC’s COVID-19 vaccination recommendations, including how medical conditions and other factors inform recommendations. If you have a medical condition, learn more about Actions You Can Take.
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    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Immunocompromised state (weakened immune system)

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    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    The amazing part of that graph is how few deaths there are.

    The US averages 6700 deaths per day with a population of 330,000,000. Since we have administered over 380,000,000 doses of vaccine we should have seen at least 6500 deaths per day for every day after the vaccine was administered. Instead we have never met that number of deaths.
    If anything this proves that the vaccine prevents deaths that would normally occur. It certainly doesn't prove the vaccine is causing deaths.
    Hypocrites. You guys used to drone on because even just ONE death was unacceptable due to Covid. You all had to have ZERO infections/deaths to be satisfied.
    But, you want to go full throttle on a useless jab no matter how many lives are ruined or lost. Hypocrites.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    One less Republican vote.

    Jesus is doing a happy dance.
    I think either way it's a "dead" issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Link it up. I find no article that indicates any deaths from the H1N1 vaccine, nor anything about Obama suspending the vaccine.
    So, you think Bama was heartless and senseless now? He stopped the testing early on in order to get some answers before continuing.
    He did not go full slaughter like Biden's masters are doing.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    The site is just a warehouse for data. Sister Stench is using it to misinterpret according to her lights, and spread her Gospel of Crazy around the Innernetz.
    The site is the left's god.............the CDC.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    The amazing part of that graph is how few deaths there are.

    The US averages 6700 deaths per day with a population of 330,000,000. Since we have administered over 380,000,000 doses of vaccine we should have seen at least 6500 deaths per day for every day after the vaccine was administered. Instead we have never met that number of deaths.
    If anything this proves that the vaccine prevents deaths that would normally occur. It certainly doesn't prove the vaccine is causing deaths.
    15,937. What happened to the left screaming that ONE life gone is too many?
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Colin Powell, who got the jab....a lot of chronic pre-conditions. He got "vaccinated against Covid", but got it anyway. Now he's dead.

    So remember folks; according to the powers that be, if you have a chronic pre-condition and don't get the vaccine, get hospitalized and test "positive", your death is Covid related and it's your fault.

    But if you have a chronic pre-condition and get the vaccine, get hospitalized and test "positive", your death is Covid related, and not attributed to the vaccine side effects or failure to do it's job.

    And remember, the PCR tests are NOT designed to diagnose disease.

    Just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    A willfully ignorant and childish response. Let me educate you on something:

    1. Anti-vaxxers are people who are against any and all vaccinations at any age....they are a relatively small part of the population. People who have legitimate questions and can find factual and logical flaws in the declarations of the medical powers that be (mostly contradictions in their own public released papers) are NOT against any and all vaccines. then you have the rabid anti-gov't types who are against the federal gov't in general, coupled with the "deep state" conspiracy folks, who are now actually seeing some vestiges of their paranoia come to light.

    2. The Covid shots are NOT vaccines, but experimental gene therapy that artificially kick starts your immune system to respond to a SPECIFIC virus. This is why you "need" 2nd and 3rd shots within less than a year...because it's NOT fully utilizing your own immune system to deal with the dead cells of the virus and permanently create anti-bodies. Hell, I once had to get a tetnus shot for stepping on a rusty nail....didn't need another for 5 years if it happened again.

    3. Kid, you want to get the shot(s), then God be with you. As for me, it would seem that it depends on which state gives you a choice....some are going the "no jab, no job" route....got to wonder how long that will last before all hell breaks loose.

    And the band played on.
    Covid shots are mRNa vaccines. They contain ribonucleic acid. It gives instructions as it is being injected. It is taken up by cells, but never enters the cell nucleus where DNA resides. It gives instructions to make proteins that match the Covid virus. The body recognizes it as foreign and develops an immune response including antibodies specific to the Trump virus. It has been around for 2 years. No hell is breaking loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    A willfully ignorant and childish response. Let me educate you on something:

    1. Anti-vaxxers are people who are against any and all vaccinations at any age....they are a relatively small part of the population. People who have legitimate questions and can find factual and logical flaws in the declarations of the medical powers that be (mostly contradictions in their own public released papers) are NOT against any and all vaccines. then you have the rabid anti-gov't types who are against the federal gov't in general, coupled with the "deep state" conspiracy folks, who are now actually seeing some vestiges of their paranoia come to light.

    2. The Covid shots are NOT vaccines, but experimental gene therapy that artificially kick starts your immune system to respond to a SPECIFIC virus. This is why you "need" 2nd and 3rd shots within less than a year...because it's NOT fully utilizing your own immune system to deal with the dead cells of the virus and permanently create anti-bodies. Hell, I once had to get a tetnus shot for stepping on a rusty nail....didn't need another for 5 years if it happened again.

    3. Kid, you want to get the shot(s), then God be with you. As for me, it would seem that it depends on which state gives you a choice....some are going the "no jab, no job" route....got to wonder how long that will last before all hell breaks loose.

    And the band played on.


    Covid shots are mRNa vaccines. They contain ribonucleic acid. It gives instructions as it is being injected. It is taken up by cells, but never enters the cell nucleus where DNA resides. It gives instructions to make proteins that match the Covid virus. The body recognizes it as foreign and develops an immune response including antibodies specific to the Trump virus. It has been around for 2 years. No hell is breaking loose.
    Nice recitation...pity it changes nothing said in previous #2. Also note:

    1) The current Covid "vaccines" are functioning under emergency authorization, and would NOT be allowed distribution to the general public under regular circumstances. Technically, they are still undergoing clinical trials.

    2) This little gem from July of this year: https://www.businessinsider.com/fda-...ne-2021-7?op=1

    3) and this: https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/06/...ccine-in-kids/

    4) Your last 2 sentences stupidly ignore (or don't comprehend) what was said, as the "jab or no job" mandates have just started THIS YEAR in a few states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    So, you think Bama was heartless and senseless now? He stopped the testing early on in order to get some answers before continuing.
    He did not go full slaughter like Biden's masters are doing.
    No, what I’m saying is that you’re probably lying again. Still.

    Link it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    The site is the left's god.............the CDC.
    I thought everyone on the left was a godless atheist.

    How do you reconcile lying and spreading misinformation that -- assuming anyone believes you which thankfully no one does -- could cause someone to be harmed, with your self-professed Xtian faith? Or have you given that up in favor of your new religion -- Trumpism?
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