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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    What? Do you know what the Department of Transportation does? It regulates interstate trucking, shipping, and logistics. The federal government has everything to do with that.
    What does regulation have to do with the current problem? Or is it your kind of fascist that wants the government to tell private businesses what to do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    What? Do you know what the Department of Transportation does? It regulates interstate trucking, shipping, and logistics. The federal government has everything to do with that.
    but no rules have changed, the demand has overwhelmed the supply chain, how is that the federal government's fault?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Being the mayor of a town of 100,000 has almost no value in training a Sec of Transportation, regardless of how well the job of mayor is done.
    if you can read and understand english and have a higher than average IQ, and a willingness to apply yourself, anyone could do the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    What does regulation have to do with the current problem? Or is it your kind of fascist that wants the government to tell private businesses what to do?
    A number of things, not all federal. Federal regulations include driving hours, mandatory breaks, etc. California of course has their own rules that are often stricter than federal ones on various things.

    For example, there is a severe driver shortage right now in the trucking industry. Drivers by federal regulations have to be at least 21.

    Part of the issue is that a big number of trucking companies folded in 2019 and 20 as the pandemic hit. About 88,000 drivers were laid off. Then the truck driving schools shut down creating a bottleneck in new drivers being trained.

    A new regulation that Biden put in place the the federal Drug and Alcohol Clearinghouse. Mandatory for companies to use. This regulation compiles a list of drivers with such violations along with those that have refused testing. It resulted in about 34,000 drivers being laid off or refused work. Even those that complete required testing and courses find it hard to get employment because insurers use this to raise rates on companies that hire these drivers.

    https://www.strongtieinsurance.com/w...w-to-solve-it/

    A list of top reasons for the driver shortage.
    https://www.globaltranz.com/trucking-regulations/

    As the federal government increases electronic monitoring of drivers and trucks, slaps more regulation on the industry, and the industry tries to find ways to manage costs, the whole is creating a perfect storm of driver shortages and bottlenecks in moving goods.
    https://www.joc.com/special-topics/driver-shortage

    I'm not saying all these regulations are bad, but rather they play a role in bottlenecking the trucking industry.

    It doesn't help that the trucking industry's drivers tend to be older and that average age is increasing rapidly. Young people aren't opting into this profession and the 21 age requirement means many high school graduates go into other jobs and by 21 don't look at driving as something they want to change jobs into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    but no rules have changed, the demand has overwhelmed the supply chain, how is that the federal government's fault?
    Wrong. Rules have changed, and new ones have been added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Wrong. Rules have changed, and new ones have been added.
    name them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    name them.
    See post 124 for some examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    A number of things, not all federal. Federal regulations include driving hours, mandatory breaks, etc. California of course has their own rules that are often stricter than federal ones on various things.

    For example, there is a severe driver shortage right now in the trucking industry. Drivers by federal regulations have to be at least 21.

    Part of the issue is that a big number of trucking companies folded in 2019 and 20 as the pandemic hit. About 88,000 drivers were laid off. Then the truck driving schools shut down creating a bottleneck in new drivers being trained.

    A new regulation that Biden put in place the the federal Drug and Alcohol Clearinghouse. Mandatory for companies to use. This regulation compiles a list of drivers with such violations along with those that have refused testing. It resulted in about 34,000 drivers being laid off or refused work. Even those that complete required testing and courses find it hard to get employment because insurers use this to raise rates on companies that hire these drivers.

    https://www.strongtieinsurance.com/w...w-to-solve-it/

    A list of top reasons for the driver shortage.
    https://www.globaltranz.com/trucking-regulations/

    As the federal government increases electronic monitoring of drivers and trucks, slaps more regulation on the industry, and the industry tries to find ways to manage costs, the whole is creating a perfect storm of driver shortages and bottlenecks in moving goods.
    https://www.joc.com/special-topics/driver-shortage

    I'm not saying all these regulations are bad, but rather they play a role in bottlenecking the trucking industry.

    It doesn't help that the trucking industry's drivers tend to be older and that average age is increasing rapidly. Young people aren't opting into this profession and the 21 age requirement means many high school graduates go into other jobs and by 21 don't look at driving as something they want to change jobs into.
    As a retired OTR driver I would hate to see many 18 year olds on the road with an 80,000 pound fully loaded semi. And why would a teen want to do such a job anyway although many are? Those over 21 are bad enough.

    https://www.alltruckjobs.com/blog/tr...-18-year-olds/
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    As a retired OTR driver I would hate to see many 18 year olds on the road with an 80,000 pound fully loaded semi. And why would a teen want to do such a job anyway although many are? Those over 21 are bad enough.

    https://www.alltruckjobs.com/blog/tr...-18-year-olds/
    It certainly isn't helping the trucking industry. Even an 18 year-old is going to be about 19 by the time they get through training to start driving. Of course, the trucking industry looks headed to self-driving trucks in any case, eliminating the driver entirely.
    This could be mitigated to some degree by having them paired with an older driver until they're 21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    Again the PIMP ignores the obvious in favor of his lies. Then too, it is his kind of fool that believes a man can breast feed a new born, not Buttegieg.
    /sigh.......I wonder if Army truck drivers could handle BIG trucks......


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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    It certainly isn't helping the trucking industry. Even an 18 year-old is going to be about 19 by the time they get through training to start driving. Of course, the trucking industry looks headed to self-driving trucks in any case, eliminating the driver entirely.
    This could be mitigated to some degree by having them paired with an older driver until they're 21.
    I read the turnover rate for truck drivers is 90 percent. That is not Biden or Pete's fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    I read the turnover rate for truck drivers is 90 percent. That is not Biden or Pete's fault.
    Some of it is with new regulations, but a good portion isn't. One thing's for sure, they're not making it any better...

    Here's some they put in place:

    Drug and Alcohol clearinghouse. All companies have to register all employees in this database and ensure compliance. It's cost the trucking industry nearly 40,000 drivers...

    New rules on Sulphur in diesel and marine fuels (IMO 2000). Drove the price up considerably. This in turn is driving up the cost of shipping.

    Upping the amount of training required to qualify for a CDL. This is driving up the cost of getting one and slowing the supply of drivers by lengthening their class time.

    Changes in overtime pay laws. Driving up the cost of non-driving employees in particular.

    California's AB5 (Democrats in Cali, not Biden or Buttigieg's fault). That's the gig work law. This is making more drivers who were independent or casuals (occasional or part time) employees driving their cost up significantly. It is also creating a shortage of drivers in California as many don't want to become employees. This is really hurting ports there as many drivers were previously independent contractors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    What does regulation have to do with the current problem? Or is it your kind of fascist that wants the government to tell private businesses what to do?
    Are you at all aware of CA restrictive trucking laws or why there is a lack of new truckers willing to deal with CA's stupid restrictions?
    I am not going to list them because you need to do a bit of homework for yourself before commenting any further.
    Hint,
    start with electirc trucks being mandated
    or,
    Trucks older than 10 years,
    or,
    prohibiting diesel engined trucks,
    or,
    no owner operated truckers allowed,
    or,
    no drivers under 21,
    or,
    only union drivers.
    That will keep you busy and off the forums for at least a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    /sigh.......I wonder if Army truck drivers could handle BIG trucks......
    Recognizing your usual ignorance, do you know the difference between a short haul, and a long haul? I can "handle" an M4, doesn't mean I can do so with any accuracy.
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