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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    The leading candidate to be next mayor of Rome, Enrico Michetti, is in trouble for praising Hitler, saying “if a country slides into chaos, you need a strong man to restore order”. (How did that work out?)
    He is heavily backed by the Brothers of Italy party, considered to be heirs of Italy’s fascist movement.

    Mr Michetti is the candidate of the RIGHT.

    I don’t know what to think! Is fascism left-wing as JPP righties tell us, or right-wing according to Italian fascists? And is War Peace, and Ignorance Strength?
    it's bi partisian. see clintons and bushes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Just because some idiot academics parrot each other doesn't mean they're correct. I've asked the question repeatedly, What makes Fascism Right wing? The answers I get don't explain that.
    the corporate half.
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    socialists, fascists, and lib'rul demmycrats share similar ideas about the relationship between government and business.......socialists, fascists, and lib'rul demmycrats share similar ideas about the control of the individual by government.......socialists, fascists, and lib'rul demmycrats share similar ideas about the centralization of power at the national level........

    can someone tell me something that fascists and conservatives share?.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    socialists, fascists, and lib'rul demmycrats share similar ideas about the relationship between government and business.......socialists, fascists, and lib'rul demmycrats share similar ideas about the control of the individual by government.......socialists, fascists, and lib'rul demmycrats share similar ideas about the centralization of power at the national level........

    can someone tell me something that fascists and conservatives share?.....
    Minorities being second class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Just because some idiot academics parrot each other doesn't mean they're correct. I've asked the question repeatedly, What makes Fascism Right wing? The answers I get don't explain that.
    Okay what is right wing? The European left and right wing? American? What. Keep in mind that the concept came from France. According to them, left wing is individualism and right wing is monarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Sort of like an agnostic Communist...
    No, it’s not

    The main difference is that under communism, most property and economic resources are owned and controlled by the state (rather than individual citizens); under socialism, all citizens share equally in economic resources as allocated by a democratically-elected government.Feb 2, 2021

    https://www.thoughtco.com › differ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Minorities being second class.
    thanks for proving my point.......lib'ruls can only find a similarity if they lie.......
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    Hello Tranquillus in Exile,

    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    The leading candidate to be next mayor of Rome, Enrico Michetti, is in trouble for praising Hitler, saying “if a country slides into chaos, you need a strong man to restore order”. (How did that work out?)
    He is heavily backed by the Brothers of Italy party, considered to be heirs of Italy’s fascist movement.

    Mr Michetti is the candidate of the RIGHT.

    I don’t know what to think! Is fascism left-wing as JPP righties tell us, or right-wing according to Italian fascists? And is War Peace, and Ignorance Strength?
    Everybody knows where fascism is coming from in the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    This is an example of Fallacy of Composition using Circular Reasoning and Cherry Picking.

    Fascism is definable by it's traits. Fascism has specific political positions and goals. Define these, then see if Michetti matches them. If not, then he's a Fascist in name only and not actually a fascist.
    Your double talk aside, TA, things mean what they mean, and JPP denizens who want to present fascism as left wing are merely continuing to display ignorance which has already, long ago, been recognized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    thanks for proving my point.......lib'ruls can only find a similarity if they lie.......
    Were the Jews, Blacks, mentally retarded and gays 2nd class?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    No, it’s not

    [COLOR=#4D5156][FONT=Roboto]The main difference is that under communism, most property and economic resources are owned and controlled by the state (rather than individual citizens); under socialism, all citizens share equally in economic resources as allocated by a democratically-elected government.Feb 2, 2021
    from your source....
    Communism: All economic resources are publicly owned and controlled by the government. Individuals hold no personal property or assets.

    Socialism: Individuals own personal property but all industrial and production capacity is communally owned and managed by a democratically elected government.
    break that down....
    Communism: All economic resources are publicly owned and controlled by the government.

    Socialism: All industrial and production capacity is communally owned and managed by a democratically elected government.
    obviously, the form of "communal ownership" in both instances is the state......therefore the only difference between the two is the arbitrary insertion of "democratically elected".......I recall elections in the Soviet Union and I'm sure they pretended they were democratic elections as well.....

    Communism: Individuals hold no personal property or assets.

    Socialism: Individuals own personal property
    so the only difference is that socialists let you have a house (if you can afford it) and a bank account (though the government decides what they give you to put in it......
    Isaiah 6:5
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    from your source....


    break that down....

    obviously, the form of "communal ownership" in both instances is the state......therefore the only difference between the two is the arbitrary insertion of "democratically elected".......I recall elections in the Soviet Union and I'm sure they pretended they were democratic elections as well.....



    so the only difference is that socialists let you have a house (if you can afford it) and a bank account (though the government decides what they give you to put in it......
    So the families are socialists for sharing houses, properties and things? Maybe the father is a Fascist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Were the Jews, Blacks, mentally retarded and gays 2nd class?
    only to you and only because you choose to be bigoted.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I choose to be bigoted and project it on you.
    Thank you for your honesty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMindlessTroll View Post
    So the families are socialists for sharing houses, properties and things? Maybe the father is a Fascist?
    apparently you are stupid enough to believe that families are governments........please step aside and let people with brains discuss things......
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