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    Looks like people are going to be paying a lot more for heating their homes this winter. Estimates are that it will cost 40 to 50% more to do this this year than last. So, if you live in one of those places with a cold winter, stand by for sticker shock due to Biden's idiotic energy policies... He may be trying to save the planet, but he's likely going to make you suffer severely, and even kill some people trying to do it...

    https://www.newsweek.com/fuel-price-...pr-gas-1636531
    https://www.newsweek.com/us-heating-...al-gas-1634415
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...edgdhp&pc=U531
    https://www.startribune.com/prepare-...ills/25650879/

    And in those places run by insane Democrats, they're blaming the energy companies not their idiot decisions...

    https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/il...-heating-bills

    Sticker shock like that isn't likely to endear the public to supporting Democrats come next year...

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    I had a meeting with a company to put solar panels on my roof...........it's an awesome idea and well worth it
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    I need this explained to me......it smells like Bull Shit:
    . Prices raced higher, first as unprecedented heat stoked air conditioning demand across the U.S., particularly in the Northwest. As a result, less gas was put into storage for winter months, during the key summer injection period.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/09/natu...is-winter.html
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    I had a meeting with a company to put solar panels on my roof...........it's an awesome idea and well worth it
    Bet they raped you on the price...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    I had a meeting with a company to put solar panels on my roof...........it's an awesome idea and well worth it
    Consistent with my philosophy as a Lukewarmist and Climate Realist. Create incentives for renewable nrg like tax breaks, provide funding for research , etc. but don't piss away $millions on pie in the sky schemes like Solyndra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Bet they raped you on the price...
    I didn't qualify because of their required credit score, but over 25 years, it's not a bad price. It would end up being the same i'm paying for electric right now, never go up, and the best part of it is the federal government payout trying to push solar........
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    I didn't qualify because of their required credit score, but over 25 years, it's not a bad price. It would end up being the same i'm paying for electric right now, never go up, and the best part of it is the federal government payout trying to push solar........
    The typical sales pitch is it saves you like $100 to $200 a month on electricity but you break even because of the payment on the system that typically goes for $40,000 to $60,000 from those companies.

    Materials and labor are realistically about half that for the typical install...

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    I'm glad we got propane for the winter before the cost skyrocketed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    The typical sales pitch is it saves you like $100 to $200 a month on electricity but you break even because of the payment on the system that typically goes for $40,000 to $60,000 from those companies.

    Materials and labor are realistically about half that for the typical install...
    yes, and spread out over 25 years, taking in to account an approximate 4.5% increase in energy costs every year, it costs less to do solar than it does to pay a utility company..........the federal money is a bonus
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    yes, and spread out over 25 years, taking in to account an approximate 4.5% increase in energy costs every year, it costs less to do solar than it does to pay a utility company..........the federal money is a bonus
    OPM from the government doesn't count. Everybody pays for that in the end. Given that in most cases, the solar panel system won't make it to 20 years without serious money in maintenance, you end up breaking about even overall. Going nuclear would lower utility rates, or keep them were they are. Most of that increase is due to more solar and wind in use and utility companies having to install excess capacity to cover for the shortages wind and solar often produce.

    Solar is a bad deal for the nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    OPM from the government doesn't count. Everybody pays for that in the end. Given that in most cases, the solar panel system won't make it to 20 years without serious money in maintenance, you end up breaking about even overall. Going nuclear would lower utility rates, or keep them were they are. Most of that increase is due to more solar and wind in use and utility companies having to install excess capacity to cover for the shortages wind and solar often produce.

    Solar is a bad deal for the nation.
    the company I dealt with, Legacy, had a 25 year warranty.........overall, they had a good plan and, like I said, the 22.6k from the feds works in my favor to pay a good chunk of principal on my mortgage
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Looks like people are going to be paying a lot more for heating their homes this winter. Estimates are that it will cost 40 to 50% more to do this this year than last. So, if you live in one of those places with a cold winter, stand by for sticker shock due to Biden's idiotic energy policies... He may be trying to save the planet, but he's likely going to make you suffer severely, and even kill some people trying to do it...

    https://www.newsweek.com/fuel-price-...pr-gas-1636531
    https://www.newsweek.com/us-heating-...al-gas-1634415
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...edgdhp&pc=U531
    https://www.startribune.com/prepare-...ills/25650879/

    And in those places run by insane Democrats, they're blaming the energy companies not their idiot decisions...

    https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/il...-heating-bills

    Sticker shock like that isn't likely to endear the public to supporting Democrats come next year...
    "Biden's?"

    Can you site us one country in the world who heat their homes in winter where the same situation isn't going to happen?

    Hate to bust your innuendo, but it is a worldwide predicament

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    "Biden's?"

    Can you site us one country in the world who heat their homes in winter where the same situation isn't going to happen?

    Hate to bust your innuendo, but it is a worldwide predicament
    No, it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    I had a meeting with a company to put solar panels on my roof...........it's an awesome idea and well worth it
    Is there an inverter/batteries involved? How does that work? Will you need a new roof?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Is there an inverter/batteries involved? How does that work? Will you need a new roof?
    I'm sure there's an inverter involved. I did ask about a battery. 12 grand, so I considered that part not worth it. The roof must pass inspection, but does not need to be new.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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