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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Those motors are very dirty. Good riddance. (noisy too)
    Define 'dirty'. If you mean a chainsaw gets dirty by hauling the thing into the woods everyday to cut and limb trees, yeah...it's going to get dirty.

    Noisy? That's just because of the next to nothing for a muffler. These machines are trying to save weight.
    Batteries are heavy, even LiO batteries. I happen to have an electric mower, which is fine for a city or suburbia lot where there is already an established lawn. On my nine-acre parcel, it can cut out a path from one to the other, but then it's done. The battery is dead. There is no way to mow such a parcel with that mower.

    I do mow it though, with a small tractor and a 4 ft hog mower. For the actual lawn I will switch to a center mower deck on the same tractor. It does a more precise job.

    BTW, my neighbor doesn't care about the noise. He's using a tractor on his land too! The sound of a chainsaw or two off in the distance and rifle fire as people are sighting in their rifles for the coming hunting season is pretty normal noise around here in autumn. Kinda nice where I live. We don't have many fucking control freaks here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    A territory that has more electoral and political power than any state? How'd you dumbasses let that happen!
    Good question. Perhaps we should eject Pelosi and any other representative from the SOTC in Congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Yep, California is about to experience what it's like to be a mushroom... Buried in shit in the dark...
    It's already there! It will just get darker and smellier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    Here is the answer to their problems hiding in plain sight!

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...43#post4463843
    At least until we cut off exports of electricity to the SOTC.

    Let 'em sit in the hot smelly dark and do some serious navel gazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    I say if Toros and blowers are outlawed, there will be a mass migration of illegals to back home.

    There will be mighty tall grass in CA.
    At least until it burns!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    They are enormous health hazards that only morons condone the use of.
    Ban Leafblowers!

    Leafblowers literally scour the earth: stripping off topsoil, desiccating roots, and killing vital soil-dwelling organisms, while, at the same time, propelling into the air clouds of dirt, dust and dangerous contaminants: volatile compounds, mold and fungal spores, weed seeds, insect eggs, pollen, molecules of the myriads of toxic chemicals people spray and sprinkle on their gardens, trees, and lawns, not to mention bird and rodent feces, and more.

    Thanks to decades of relentless lobbying by their manufacturers, the two-cylinder engines that drive leafblowers have never been regulated by any Federal or State agency. The engines, as a result, are crude, cheap, and inefficient, as well as harmful to the environment and everything living in it. Because they are designed to be air-cooled, the engines release 100% of their tailgate emissions directly into the environment, and since they also burn fuel very inefficiently, a leafblower running for one hour emits as many hydrocarbons and other pollutants into the atmosphere as a car driven at 55 mph for 110 miles.

    It goes without saying (but must be said anyway), that leafblowers pose the greatest threat to the health and hearing of the untold numbers of landscape workers who use them on a daily basis, in most cases without adequate protective equipment, for intervals that far exceed OSHA guidelines. Unfortunately, the workers themselves tend to exaggerate the benefits and deny the risks of blowing leaves with machines, which they strongly favor over rakes, for reasons that probably have more to do with symbolism than practicality.

    Ironically, leafblowers were not invented to blow leaves; they were originally designed as crop dusters. In other words, they didn’t come about in response to a genuine need for a mechanized solution to the leaf-removal problem. Because there wasn’t any problem. Now we do have a problem, but it isn’t leaves, it’s these infernal machines.
    Leafblowers do not strip off topsoil. They are used to clear sidewalks, parking lots, and roads. No topsoil there.
    Since you consider dirt so dangerous, go put yourself in a bubble and live out the rest of your life in fear.

    Crop dusting (actually pesticide control) is usually done by aircraft or ground sprayers. Some irrigation systems can incorporate fertilizer or pesticide in their systems as they water the crops.

    Even 'organic' farmers use pesticides. It's that or lose the whole crop!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    First off, where are there any 2 cylinder leaf blowers? They'd be too heavy.
    Symbolism? WTF? You think people use them for gratification? Appeasement?
    Practicality? They are far more practical than a lawn rake, and do a better job.

    I don't use my leaf blower for leaves (I use a mulching mower) but I do use it to
    clean my sidewalk, blow dirt etc. out of my garage and off my driveway. Also to
    blow the grass off of my tractor before I wipe it down. It also works great to blow
    light snow off my sidewalks, driveway and car. I won't go without one!
    They are great for these applications. Unfortunately, out by my way in the Wet Side of Washington, we get heavy wet snow if we get it at all. We call it 'Cascade Concrete'. A leaf blower has no chance. We use dragons, heavy shovels (those cheap light duty snow shovels just fold up into junk on this stuff), and plows to remove it. I have such an attachment on my tractor for that purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    you mean texas?

    The Texas Blackout Is the Story of a Disaster Foretoldhttps://www.texasmonthly.com › ... › News & Politics
    Feb 19, 2021 — Those in charge of Texas's deregulated power sector were warned again and ... when the power outages were at their most severe, the cold had ...

    CEO Of Texas Power Grid Fired After Massive Cold Weather ...https://www.npr.org › 2021/03/03 › ceo-of-texas-power-g...
    Mar 3, 2021 — Bill Magness was head of the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which was widely blamed when people were left without electricity and ...

    Texas power outages mostly caused by cold weather - Axioshttps://www.axios.com › Energy & Environment
    Apr 7, 2021 — Details: 54% of outages could be attributed to the cold during the winter storm, which caused the deaths of 125 people. This "includes but is ...

    Why the cold weather caused huge Texas blackouts - The ...https://www.theguardian.com › us-news › feb › texas-p...
    Feb 20, 2021 — The Texas power outage, which has left millions without power, happened for a multitude of reasons. But it's important to understand how ...

    Texas power outage map - USA Todayhttps://www.usatoday.com › news › nation › 2021/02/16
    Feb 16, 2021 — Extreme cold winter weather led to power outages and rolling blackouts in Texas. Here's why it happened.

    Texas was minutes away from monthslong power outages ...https://www.texastribune.org › 2021/02/18 › texas-pow...
    Feb 18, 2021 — Officials with the Electric Reliability Council of Texas said that ... wind power and coal plants tripped offline due to the extreme cold ...

    Texas power outage: At least 10 deaths linked to statewide ...https://www.texastribune.org › 2021/02/16 › texas-wint...
    Feb 16, 2021 — We're tracking the fallout from the massive winter storm in Texas, which has brought widespread power outages and transportation problems.

    Texas power outages: Why blackouts hit as temperatures fellhttps://www.cnet.com › ... › Energy And Utilities
    Feb 19, 2021 — And why some are inaccurately blaming solar and wind for the massive outages. ... Texans are out of power thanks to a cold snap. Getty Images.
    Special pleading fallacy. The SOTC faces regular blackouts even in perfect weather conditions.
    Texas power outages were largely due to wind generators required by liberal fucks like you are not able to operate in freezing weather, and natural gas lines were actually getting chunks of ice clogging up the lines. That kind of freeze is VERY unusual for Texas, a record breaker. Not so for the SOTC blackouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Stop denying you are a TRUMPTARD. You voted for his twice!

    AND YOU WILL VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN! LOL!
    Try English. There has been no one named 'Trumptard' on the ballot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    People still believe that they can rescue human habitation on earth,

    I'm not even completely certain that doing so is a good idea,
    So go kill yourself. Stop being part of the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    No, I really only hate politically RETARDED people!

    People that should know better- but just can't get over themselves!
    No such thing as 'politically retarded'. Buzzword fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Are you comparing sizes? Compensating for something, huh?
    Embarrassed with your lot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    At least until we cut off exports of electricity to the SOTC.

    Let 'em sit in the hot smelly dark and do some serious navel gazing.
    Californication wants to hijack power from other states via FERC.


    State governments are far more involved in their states’ electricity markets than they should be, and none shows the folly of centralized control more than California.

    California’s convoluted workaround for its power supply woes takes the form of a Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) decision that would allow the California Independent System Operator (CAISO) to use power intended for other states in an emergency.

    The ruling changes tariff rules for CAISO and allows it to block energy destined for other states from crossing its border and then repurchase this power for its own uses in a grid emergency.

    One source that would be impacted by this is hydroelectric power from Oregon that has already been purchased by Arizona, and for which the state has transmission agreements with CAISO.

    This decision could have serious consequences for grid reliability in other parts of the West because the power that comes through California can no longer be counted on in a situation where there is high energy demand.

    This means that states that use energy transmitted through California can no longer count on that capacity in planning for peak load. Because it can no longer be counted on in a crisis, this capacity can no longer be factored into calculations for worst-case scenarios. The same conditions, namely major heat waves, that would cause California to keep back this energy for its own use would be those in which Arizona needed it the most. Instead of allowing energy to be bought and sold in a fair and open market, California is struggling to secure scarce power that has already been bought for itself. This situation provides a great lesson against state governments messing around with energy markets.


    https://catalyst.independent.org/202...poor-planning/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    No! I will get complacent. NOT AS LONG AS DONALD TRUMP IS THREATENING THE NATION THAT HE WILL RUN AGAIN.
    No threat. He will run again. He's said so.
    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Not as long as states are setting everything up so that the REPUBLICANS can cheat in the next election and personally guarantee he wins.
    They aren't. You are hallucinating again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Not as long as Donald Trump is not held accountable and punished for his crimes- and his lies!
    What crimes? You are hallucinating again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    No! I won't settle down! I'm just getting started!
    With what? Ranting a bunch of chants the Democrats taught you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    You have TDS pretty bad. Take 3 laxatives and get some sleep.
    Three laxatives?!? I guess that means he's really full of shit!
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