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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    And you don't get to decide if a state has violated its owns constitution and laws.
    Yes he does.
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    Even if they did, there is nothing in the Constitution saying they can no longer be a state--that is just stuff you made up.
    If they are no longer honoring the constitution that defines them, they are no longer a State. You still have no clue what a constitution is or what it does, even I've already told you several times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    And you don't get to decide if a state has violated its owns constitution and laws.
    Yes I do.

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    Even if they did,
    They did.

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    there is nothing in the Constitution saying they can no longer be a state--that is just stuff you made up.
    They are no longer States. I have provided my reasoning for coming to that conclusion. ITN has been kind enough to continue providing his reasoning to you for coming to his conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Yes I do.
    Yet, those states continue to function as before despite your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Yet, those states continue to function as before despite your opinion.
    Nope... They functioned as republics before. They now function as socialist oligarchies.

    It's already clear what happens when socialist oligarchies form. The SOTC has water issues, electricity issues, farming issues, trucking issues, port issues, vandalism issues, theft issues, crime issues, drug and homelessness issues, civil unrest, poorly maintained roads, and on and on and on... It is all but impossible to conduct business there. --- The SOTNY became a socialist oligarchy later than the SOTC did, so over time you will continue to see the same results play out in the SOTNY too.

    The SOTC functions NOTHING like the State of California functioned.

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    @ Flash

    A "groan", and nothing else, speaks volumes as to how much (well, how little) you have left to offer to this discussion. You have now tucked your tail between your legs. Congratulations! The kiddie pool is calling your name!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    @ Flash

    A "groan", and nothing else, speaks volumes as to how much (well, how little) you have left to offer to this discussion. You have now tucked your tail between your legs. Congratulations! The kiddie pool is calling your name!
    There really is nothing left to add to a discussion because your argument has no merit. We both know you don't get to decide if a state has violated its constitution and we both know CA and NY are still states. Nothing left to add to a simple factual statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    There really is nothing left to add to a discussion because your argument has no merit.
    This is where you need to form a counter argument detailing how my argument "has no merit".

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    We both know
    You don't get to speak for me.

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    you don't get to decide if a state has violated its constitution
    Yes I do.

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    and we both know
    You don't get to speak for me.

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    CA and NY are still states.
    Nope. They are now socialist oligarchies, as I have already explained.

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    Nothing left to add to a simple factual statement.
    You haven't added anything. You have merely made the exact same incorrect claims for the umpteenth time now. My response to them hasn't changed. You are clearly still unwilling to form any sort of response to what I have said to you beyond mindlessly chanting the same words over and over again.

    These are deeper waters, son... This ain't the echo chamber kiddie pool...

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    Birdman is going crazy with his imaginary internet powers.He believes he decides all things, great and small. he is so clueless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Birdman is going crazy with his imaginary internet powers.He believes he decides all things, great and small. he is so clueless.
    You mean Into the Night?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    This is where you need to form a counter argument detailing how my argument "has no merit".
    If I claimed there is no such thing as gravity and asked you to form a counter argument it would be impossible for you to rationally do so.

    Same applies to the claim that we only have 48 states because you say so. No counter argument to the absurd.

    Silly fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    If I claimed there is no such thing as gravity and asked you to form a counter argument it would be impossible for you to rationally do so.
    Step 1: I open up a window and extend a brick out from it.
    Step 2: You stand below that window & brick and look upwards.
    Step 3: I release the brick from my grasp.
    Step 4: You observe gravity "up close".

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Same applies to the claim that we only have 48 states because you say so.
    Here, you are leaving out all of my rationale supporting that claim. Since you are seemingly incapable of forming an argument against it, you are childishly resorting to pretending that my rationale doesn't exist. Hence, my favorite emojis for liberals who love to cover their eyes and plug their ears...




    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    No counter argument to the absurd.
    Argument of the Stone Fallacy.

    WHAT, specifically with regard to my rationale, was "absurd"?? You have provided no counterargument.

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    Silly fallacy.
    Fallacy Fallacy.


    Pretty soon you'll even find yourself drowning in the kiddie pool.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Are you using ivermectin prophylactically ?
    Yes, I believe he is!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    You mean Into the Night?
    he has a couple of socks. he has a cardinal in one, a blue bird in another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Anyone who refers to and immediately dismisses ivermectin as "horse worm meds" is a person who has outsourced his/her thinking to manipulative liars.


    Now, let's do a "deep dive" into the data being presented to us:

    Take a look at the COVID case numbers in certain parts of India, specifically Uttar Pradesh and Delhi. You will first notice that both of them had a huge upward spike in COVID cases starting at the beginning of April of this year and continuing to spike until the end of April. You will then notice that both of them had a huge corresponding DOWNWARD SLIDE from the beginning of May until the end of May. You will then notice that both of them, since the beginning of June (and through today) have been all but "COVID-free" (very few isolated cases) and have effectively "flat lined" near zero with regard to COVID cases.

    Now let's take a look at case numbers in another part of India called Kerala. All the way up until the beginning of April, their numbers were quite similar to Uttar Pradesh and Delhi. Through the month of April, they experienced the same upward spike in cases that Uttar Pradesh and Delhi did. During May, their numbers came down similarly to Uttar Pradesh and Delhi (but not a corresponding decrease, meaning that it was not as sharp of a decrease as the increase was). Then in June through today, the cases in Kerala did not effectively reach zero (near zero) like Uttar Pradesh and Delhi did, but they instead increased for months before now coming back down to where they were at the lowest part of the decrease, but are still nowhere near as low as Uttar Pradesh and Delhi are.

    The former USA, in comparison, is different from all of them in regard that the increases and decreases are much wider-spread instead of squished in (meaning that it takes much longer for cases to increase and decrease). The former USA's chart is most similar to Kerala's chart though.

    Before summarizing the differences in approach, let me first list out the populations of each area and then compare some data such as the seven day moving averages of "peak cases" and "current cases", ivermectin usage, and then compare India's vaccination rates to the former USA's vaccination rates:

    DELHI: ~30 million
    (~25k cases at end of April peak, ~30 cases at end of September)
    (widespread usage of ivermectin, not as aggressively as Uttar Pradesh though)
    Cases have been under 1,000 since the beginning of June and under 100 since early-July.

    KERALA: ~35 million
    (~38k cases at mid-May peak, ~15k cases at end of September)
    (Initially had restricted ivermectin usage as a late treatment, then stopped ivermectin usage at beginning of August)
    Cases have never been under ~11k, let alone under 1,000 or under 100.

    UTTAR PRADESH: ~240 million
    (~35k cases at end of April peak, ~15 cases at end of September)
    (widespread prophylactic and therapeutic usage of ivermectin)
    Cases have been under 1,000 since a bit into June and under 100 since mid-July.

    FORMER USA: ~330 million
    (~254k cases at early-January peak, ~13k cases at early-June, ~110k cases at end of September)
    (Government is opposed to ivermectin usage. Very low ivermectin usage because it has been quite difficult to get a prescription for it and/or getting a pharmacy to fill it. A number of people have thus resorted to keeping the horse dewormer version of it on stock).
    Cases have never been under ~11k, let alone under 1,000 or under 100.


    INDIA'S VACCINATION NUMBERS:
    (~2% "fully vaccinated" at end of April peak, ~17% "fully vaccinated" at end of September)

    FORMER USA'S VACCINATION NUMBERS:
    (~0% "fully vaccinated" at early-January peak, ~43% "fully vaccinated" at early-June, ~56% "fully vaccinated" at end of September)


    It appears to me that aggressive usage of ivermectin (both prophylactically and therapeutically) has made a huge difference and has largely been successful... Meanwhile, the "JUST GET THE FUCKING JAB, OR ELSE!!!!" approach has made little/no difference and has largely been a complete failure.

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