Ivermectin APPEARS TO BE WORKING WONDERS

[gfm7175]

Anyone who refers to and immediately dismisses ivermectin as "horse worm meds" is a person who has outsourced his/her thinking to manipulative liars.


Now, let's do a "deep dive" into the data being presented to us:

Take a look at the COVID case numbers in certain parts of India, specifically Uttar Pradesh and Delhi. You will first notice that both of them had a huge upward spike in COVID cases starting at the beginning of April of this year and continuing to spike until the end of April. You will then notice that both of them had a huge corresponding DOWNWARD SLIDE from the beginning of May until the end of May. You will then notice that both of them, since the beginning of June (and through today) have been all but "COVID-free" (very few isolated cases) and have effectively "flat lined" near zero with regard to COVID cases.

Now let's take a look at case numbers in another part of India called Kerala. All the way up until the beginning of April, their numbers were quite similar to Uttar Pradesh and Delhi. Through the month of April, they experienced the same upward spike in cases that Uttar Pradesh and Delhi did. During May, their numbers came down similarly to Uttar Pradesh and Delhi (but not a corresponding decrease, meaning that it was not as sharp of a decrease as the increase was). Then in June through today, the cases in Kerala did not effectively reach zero (near zero) like Uttar Pradesh and Delhi did, but they instead increased for months before now coming back down to where they were at the lowest part of the decrease, but are still nowhere near as low as Uttar Pradesh and Delhi are.

The former USA, in comparison, is different from all of them in regard that the increases and decreases are much wider-spread instead of squished in (meaning that it takes much longer for cases to increase and decrease). The former USA's chart is most similar to Kerala's chart though.

Before summarizing the differences in approach, let me first list out the populations of each area and then compare some data such as the seven day moving averages of "peak cases" and "current cases", ivermectin usage, and then compare India's vaccination rates to the former USA's vaccination rates:

DELHI: ~30 million
(~25k cases at end of April peak, ~30 cases at end of September)
(widespread usage of ivermectin, not as aggressively as Uttar Pradesh though)
Cases have been under 1,000 since the beginning of June and under 100 since early-July.

KERALA: ~35 million
(~38k cases at mid-May peak, ~15k cases at end of September)
(Initially had restricted ivermectin usage as a late treatment, then stopped ivermectin usage at beginning of August)
Cases have never been under ~11k, let alone under 1,000 or under 100.

UTTAR PRADESH: ~240 million
(~35k cases at end of April peak, ~15 cases at end of September)
(widespread prophylactic and therapeutic usage of ivermectin)
Cases have been under 1,000 since a bit into June and under 100 since mid-July.

FORMER USA: ~330 million
(~254k cases at early-January peak, ~13k cases at early-June, ~110k cases at end of September)
(Government is opposed to ivermectin usage. Very low ivermectin usage because it has been quite difficult to get a prescription for it and/or getting a pharmacy to fill it. A number of people have thus resorted to keeping the horse dewormer version of it on stock).
Cases have never been under ~11k, let alone under 1,000 or under 100.


INDIA'S VACCINATION NUMBERS:
(~2% "fully vaccinated" at end of April peak, ~17% "fully vaccinated" at end of September)

FORMER USA'S VACCINATION NUMBERS:
(~0% "fully vaccinated" at early-January peak, ~43% "fully vaccinated" at early-June, ~56% "fully vaccinated" at end of September)


It appears to me that aggressive usage of ivermectin (both prophylactically and therapeutically) has made a huge difference and has largely been successful... Meanwhile, the "JUST GET THE FUCKING JAB, OR ELSE!!!!" approach has made little/no difference and has largely been a complete failure.

Fuck Joe Biden.
Fuck tyranny.
Fuck the Demonkkkrat Party.

[AProudLefty]

If you want to say that it treats the symptoms, that's fine. Doesn't mean you don't need vaccine.

[evince]

Why would you selectively believe scientific findings?



This is an experimental treatment


More humans on the planet have taken the vaccine with excellent results than have taken this horse medication



Yet you don’t believe the findings on both equally


Why?


Because you ONLY believe what you WANT to believe


That’s not science

[Poor Richard Saunders]

I guess if you completely ignore all other reasons for the lower infection rates, you could reach your conclusion.

Perhaps it's because mask mandates work to stop the spread. I wonder why the US hasn't made mask wearing compulsory like most of India has.

Wearing a mask while driving alone in a private vehicle is compulsory in the context of COVID-19, the Delhi High Court said on Wednesday and described the face covering as a ‘suraksha kavach’, or protective shield, against the spread of the infection.

Uttar Pradesh
In the wake of the coronavirus situation, wearing of masks has been made compulsory and not using them can invite action in the state, according to Uttar Pradesh Additional Chief Secretary Awanish Awasthi.
"Wearing of masks has been made compulsory in the state. There can be legal action also for not wearing masks," Awasthi said at a press conference.

Delhi
The Delhi government on Wednesday made it compulsory for people to wear face masks when stepping outdoors to combat the coronavirus spread.
Announcing the decision after a high-level meeting, chief minister Arvind Kejriwal said, "Wearing of facial masks can reduce the spread of coronavirus substantially."
"Therefore, it has been decided that facial masks will be compulsory for anyone stepping out of their house. Cloth mask shall be eligible too," he tweeted.

Kerala
Chief Minister Pinarayi Vijayan on Tuesday said citizens venturing out of their homes should wear two masks from now on.

Ideally, they should wear an N-95 mask. Or they should wear a surgical mask over a cloth mask. The government had banned walking for exercise in public places. Citizens should also abandon exercising in parks, beaches, and public squares for now.

https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/ind...h-court-696000
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/75053386.cms
https://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...le34481609.ece

[Phantasmal]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34265236/

“Conclusions: Inclusion of ivermectin in treatment regimen of mild to moderate COVID-19 patients could not be said with certainty based on our study results as it had shown only marginal benefit in successful discharge from the hospital with no other observed benefits.”


https://healthfeedback.org/claimrevi...ateway-pundit/

DETAILS

“Inadequate support: Epidemiological data from other countries that recommended ivermectin suggests that ivermectin didn’t slow down the rate of new infection. As of May 2021, there isn’t reliable clinical evidence indicating that ivermectin is beneficial in preventing or curing COVID-19. The article doesn’t provide new evidence supporting a causal link between the recommendation to use ivermectin and the decrease of cases.
Flawed reasoning: If ivermectin were responsible for the reduction of cases, the slow down of disease spreading should be observed after the guidelines’ release.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...306-2021-09-26

“The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) and the National Task Force on Covid-19 have dropped the use of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) drugs from their revised guidelines for the treatment of the infection.
The decision was taken after experts found that these drugs have little to no effect on Covid-related mortality or clinical recovery of the patient.”

[Hoosier Daddy]

Anyone who refers to and immediately dismisses ivermectin as "horse worm meds" is a person who has outsourced his/her thinking to manipulative liars.


Now, let's do a "deep dive" into the data being presented to us:

Take a look at the COVID case numbers in certain parts of India, specifically Uttar Pradesh and Delhi. You will first notice that both of them had a huge upward spike in COVID cases starting at the beginning of April of this year and continuing to spike until the end of April. You will then notice that both of them had a huge corresponding DOWNWARD SLIDE from the beginning of May until the end of May. You will then notice that both of them, since the beginning of June (and through today) have been all but "COVID-free" (very few isolated cases) and have effectively "flat lined" near zero with regard to COVID cases.

Now let's take a look at case numbers in another part of India called Kerala. All the way up until the beginning of April, their numbers were quite similar to Uttar Pradesh and Delhi. Through the month of April, they experienced the same upward spike in cases that Uttar Pradesh and Delhi did. During May, their numbers came down similarly to Uttar Pradesh and Delhi (but not a corresponding decrease, meaning that it was not as sharp of a decrease as the increase was). Then in June through today, the cases in Kerala did not effectively reach zero (near zero) like Uttar Pradesh and Delhi did, but they instead increased for months before now coming back down to where they were at the lowest part of the decrease, but are still nowhere near as low as Uttar Pradesh and Delhi are.

The former USA, in comparison, is different from all of them in regard that the increases and decreases are much wider-spread instead of squished in (meaning that it takes much longer for cases to increase and decrease). The former USA's chart is most similar to Kerala's chart though.

Before summarizing the differences in approach, let me first list out the populations of each area and then compare some data such as the seven day moving averages of "peak cases" and "current cases", ivermectin usage, and then compare India's vaccination rates to the former USA's vaccination rates:

DELHI: ~30 million
(~25k cases at end of April peak, ~30 cases at end of September)
(widespread usage of ivermectin, not as aggressively as Uttar Pradesh though)
Cases have been under 1,000 since the beginning of June and under 100 since early-July.

KERALA: ~35 million
(~38k cases at mid-May peak, ~15k cases at end of September)
(Initially had restricted ivermectin usage as a late treatment, then stopped ivermectin usage at beginning of August)
Cases have never been under ~11k, let alone under 1,000 or under 100.

UTTAR PRADESH: ~240 million
(~35k cases at end of April peak, ~15 cases at end of September)
(widespread prophylactic and therapeutic usage of ivermectin)
Cases have been under 1,000 since a bit into June and under 100 since mid-July.

FORMER USA: ~330 million
(~254k cases at early-January peak, ~13k cases at early-June, ~110k cases at end of September)
(Government is opposed to ivermectin usage. Very low ivermectin usage because it has been quite difficult to get a prescription for it and/or getting a pharmacy to fill it. A number of people have thus resorted to keeping the horse dewormer version of it on stock).
Cases have never been under ~11k, let alone under 1,000 or under 100.


INDIA'S VACCINATION NUMBERS:
(~2% "fully vaccinated" at end of April peak, ~17% "fully vaccinated" at end of September)

FORMER USA'S VACCINATION NUMBERS:
(~0% "fully vaccinated" at early-January peak, ~43% "fully vaccinated" at early-June, ~56% "fully vaccinated" at end of September)


It appears to me that aggressive usage of ivermectin (both prophylactically and therapeutically) has made a huge difference and has largely been successful... Meanwhile, the "JUST GET THE FUCKING JAB, OR ELSE!!!!" approach has made little/no difference and has largely been a complete failure.

Fuck Joe Biden.
Fuck tyranny.
Fuck the Demonkkkrat Party.

bullshit numbers, stupid bitch. here are the facts-

rate went to near zero. Politicizing Ivermection may be costing people's lives.
you are a gullible fool. there is no evidence to suggest what you just spewed, dumbass clown.

India experienced a decrease in the number of COVID-19 cases in May 2021. However, no data is available to support the claim that this is causally associated with the recommendation to use ivermectin. The reduced spread of the disease began before India released official recommendations to use that drug. In spite of several clinical studies, no reliable evidence is available to suggest that hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin are effective against COVID-19. At the moment, international health agencies and scientific societies discourage using these drugs to treat COVID-19, except in clinical trials designed to assess their efficacy.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimrevi...ateway-pundit/

Tribune News Service

New Delhi, June 7

India on Monday issued a new clinical protocol for Covid treatment and dropped all commonly used treatments for mild patients of the infection, including antibiotics, hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), ivermectin and antiviral drug favipiravir.

No antibiotic for mild cases

No antibiotics or antiviral drug favipiravir for mild patients
No steam inhalation (people doing this in excess)
Hydration, good diet, positive mindset, social connection important for recovery
Remdesivir, tocilizumab use only in severely ill cases, as per fresh DGHS norms
WHO chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan today hailed the new evidence-based guidelines developed by the Director General of Health Services (DGHS) who said mildly ill Covid patients would be fine with just paracetamol, cough syrup and budesonide inhalation and need not be prescribed any antibiotics or major drugs at all.

This means the currently in use and much prescribed HCQ, favipiravir, ivermectin, azithromycin, doxycycline, zinc and vitamins are not required clinically and have no evidence of benefit.

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/na...roquine-265244

[Flash]

Anyone who refers to and immediately dismisses ivermectin as "horse worm meds" is a person who has outsourced his/her thinking to manipulative liars.

Are you using ivermectin prophylactically ?

[Nordberg]

It does not work. https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevens...reat-covid-19/

[Concart]

Completely illogical conclusion. Covid deaths have dropped in India because Covid CASES have dropped at the same rate. Since Ivermectin does not prevent infection, it has nothing to do with lower death rates or lower infection rates.

[Jade Dragon]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34265236/

“Conclusions: Inclusion of ivermectin in treatment regimen of mild to moderate COVID-19 patients could not be said with certainty based on our study results as it had shown only marginal benefit in successful discharge from the hospital with no other observed benefits.”


https://healthfeedback.org/claimrevi...ateway-pundit/

DETAILS

“Inadequate support: Epidemiological data from other countries that recommended ivermectin suggests that ivermectin didn’t slow down the rate of new infection. As of May 2021, there isn’t reliable clinical evidence indicating that ivermectin is beneficial in preventing or curing COVID-19. The article doesn’t provide new evidence supporting a causal link between the recommendation to use ivermectin and the decrease of cases.
Flawed reasoning: If ivermectin were responsible for the reduction of cases, the slow down of disease spreading should be observed after the guidelines’ release.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...306-2021-09-26

[FONT="]“The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) and the National Task Force on Covid-19 have dropped the use of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) drugs from their revised guidelines for the treatment of the infection.
The decision was taken after experts found that these drugs have little to no effect on Covid-related mortality or clinical recovery of the patient.”
[/FONT]

Isn't it against the rules to not present a link in what the OP posted anyway? For all we know, he pulled this off some pseudoscience blog.

[katzgar]

Anyone who refers to and immediately dismisses ivermectin as "horse worm meds" is a person who has outsourced his/her thinking to manipulative liars.


Now, let's do a "deep dive" into the data being presented to us:

Take a look at the COVID case numbers in certain parts of India, specifically Uttar Pradesh and Delhi. You will first notice that both of them had a huge upward spike in COVID cases starting at the beginning of April of this year and continuing to spike until the end of April. You will then notice that both of them had a huge corresponding DOWNWARD SLIDE from the beginning of May until the end of May. You will then notice that both of them, since the beginning of June (and through today) have been all but "COVID-free" (very few isolated cases) and have effectively "flat lined" near zero with regard to COVID cases.

Now let's take a look at case numbers in another part of India called Kerala. All the way up until the beginning of April, their numbers were quite similar to Uttar Pradesh and Delhi. Through the month of April, they experienced the same upward spike in cases that Uttar Pradesh and Delhi did. During May, their numbers came down similarly to Uttar Pradesh and Delhi (but not a corresponding decrease, meaning that it was not as sharp of a decrease as the increase was). Then in June through today, the cases in Kerala did not effectively reach zero (near zero) like Uttar Pradesh and Delhi did, but they instead increased for months before now coming back down to where they were at the lowest part of the decrease, but are still nowhere near as low as Uttar Pradesh and Delhi are.

The former USA, in comparison, is different from all of them in regard that the increases and decreases are much wider-spread instead of squished in (meaning that it takes much longer for cases to increase and decrease). The former USA's chart is most similar to Kerala's chart though.

Before summarizing the differences in approach, let me first list out the populations of each area and then compare some data such as the seven day moving averages of "peak cases" and "current cases", ivermectin usage, and then compare India's vaccination rates to the former USA's vaccination rates:

DELHI: ~30 million
(~25k cases at end of April peak, ~30 cases at end of September)
(widespread usage of ivermectin, not as aggressively as Uttar Pradesh though)
Cases have been under 1,000 since the beginning of June and under 100 since early-July.

KERALA: ~35 million
(~38k cases at mid-May peak, ~15k cases at end of September)
(Initially had restricted ivermectin usage as a late treatment, then stopped ivermectin usage at beginning of August)
Cases have never been under ~11k, let alone under 1,000 or under 100.

UTTAR PRADESH: ~240 million
(~35k cases at end of April peak, ~15 cases at end of September)
(widespread prophylactic and therapeutic usage of ivermectin)
Cases have been under 1,000 since a bit into June and under 100 since mid-July.

FORMER USA: ~330 million
(~254k cases at early-January peak, ~13k cases at early-June, ~110k cases at end of September)
(Government is opposed to ivermectin usage. Very low ivermectin usage because it has been quite difficult to get a prescription for it and/or getting a pharmacy to fill it. A number of people have thus resorted to keeping the horse dewormer version of it on stock).
Cases have never been under ~11k, let alone under 1,000 or under 100.


INDIA'S VACCINATION NUMBERS:
(~2% "fully vaccinated" at end of April peak, ~17% "fully vaccinated" at end of September)

FORMER USA'S VACCINATION NUMBERS:
(~0% "fully vaccinated" at early-January peak, ~43% "fully vaccinated" at early-June, ~56% "fully vaccinated" at end of September)


It appears to me that aggressive usage of ivermectin (both prophylactically and therapeutically) has made a huge difference and has largely been successful... Meanwhile, the "JUST GET THE FUCKING JAB, OR ELSE!!!!" approach has made little/no difference and has largely been a complete failure.

Fuck Joe Biden.
Fuck tyranny.
Fuck the Demonkkkrat Party.

you are a moron

[Jade Dragon]

The medical science community isn't Joe Biden, tyranny, or democrats, so save those comments for yourself, GFM.

[gfm7175]

If you want to say that it treats the symptoms, that's fine. Doesn't mean you don't need vaccine.

Why would I need a vaccine for a 99+% survivable disease that has numerous treatment options available?

But to not lose focus on the numbers, apparently Uttar Predesh and Delhi are doing something right that Kerala and the former USA are doing wrong... It's also interesting that Uttar Predesh and Delhi happened to aggressively use ivermectin meanwhile Kerala and the former USA poo-pooed it.

[Into the Night]

If you want to say that it treats the symptoms, that's fine. Doesn't mean you don't need vaccine.

If you've had covid19 the vaccine is useless.
No one NEEDS the vaccine. If you want to get it, fine. That's your choice.

[AProudLefty]

Why would I need a vaccine for a 99+% survivable disease that has numerous treatment options available?

You don't need it. Nobody tells you that. Up to you.

But to not lose focus on the numbers, apparently Uttar Predesh and Delhi are doing something right that Kerala and the former USA are doing wrong... It's also interesting that Uttar Predesh and Delhi happened to aggressively use ivermectin meanwhile Kerala and the former USA poo-pooed it.

No proof that Ivermectin worked in India except perhaps for treatments.