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    Default Trump's Vile Effort to Steal the Election

    "Jan. 6 Was Worse Than We Knew"

    How much comfort can we take from Trump's stupidity? Not a lot given the distinct possibility of him trying again and a Republican Party that continues to support him.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/02/o...-election.html


    "However horrifying the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol appeared in the moment, we know now that it was far worse.

    The country was hours away from a full-blown constitutional crisis — not primarily because of the violence and mayhem inflicted by hundreds of President Donald Trump’s supporters but because of the actions of Mr. Trump himself.

    In the days before the mob descended on the Capitol, a corollary attack — this one bloodless and legalistic — was playing out down the street in the White House, where Mr. Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and a lawyer named John Eastman huddled in the Oval Office, scheming to subvert the will of the American people by using legal sleight-of-hand.

    Mr. Eastman’s unusual visit was reported at the time, but a new book by the Washington Post journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa provides the details of his proposed six-point plan. It involved Mr. Pence rejecting dozens of already certified electoral votes representing tens of millions of legally cast ballots, thus allowing Congress to install Mr. Trump in a second term...."
    "Give pearls away and rubies but keep your fancy free."

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    What if Pence played along? Where would we be now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    What if Pence played along? Where would we be now?
    The entire Republican congress would be dead or in jail from the 2nd civil war we won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    What if Pence played along? Where would we be now?
    The courts would have had to explain to these American citizens that the Vice President's statutory role in the certification process does not permit him to reject electoral ballots. Not for any reason does he have that authority.
    "Give pearls away and rubies but keep your fancy free."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    The entire Republican congress would be dead or in jail from the 2nd civil war we won.
    Ohhhhhhhhh,...The FBI is watching you now AND listening in. Terrorist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    The entire Republican congress would be dead or in jail from the 2nd civil war we won.
    I like your positive attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    The courts would have had to explain to these American citizens that the Vice President's statutory role in the certification process does not permit him to reject electoral ballots. Not for any reason does he have that authority.
    Would this be before or after Trump declares*Martial Law to restore Order?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Would this be before or after Trump declares*Martial Law to restore Order?
    A phony martial law declaration wouldn't work. The country, excluding Trump's deadheads, wouldn't stand for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    A phony martial law declaration wouldn't work. The country, excluding Trump's deadheads, wouldn't stand for it.
    I'm glad you feel that way. I'm not so sure myself. The 'Cult of Trump' shows it can happen here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin View Post
    "Jan. 6 Was Worse Than We Knew"

    How much comfort can we take from Trump's stupidity? Not a lot given the distinct possibility of him trying again and a Republican Party that continues to support him.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/02/o...-election.html


    "However horrifying the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol appeared in the moment, we know now that it was far worse.

    The country was hours away from a full-blown constitutional crisis — not primarily because of the violence and mayhem inflicted by hundreds of President Donald Trump’s supporters but because of the actions of Mr. Trump himself.

    In the days before the mob descended on the Capitol, a corollary attack — this one bloodless and legalistic — was playing out down the street in the White House, where Mr. Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and a lawyer named John Eastman huddled in the Oval Office, scheming to subvert the will of the American people by using legal sleight-of-hand.

    Mr. Eastman’s unusual visit was reported at the time, but a new book by the Washington Post journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa provides the details of his proposed six-point plan. It involved Mr. Pence rejecting dozens of already certified electoral votes representing tens of millions of legally cast ballots, thus allowing Congress to install Mr. Trump in a second term...."

    Trump should be in leg irons.

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    Trump and Eastman had a 6 pt plot to overthrow the election. Pence did not quite follow the plan. https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/polit...emo/index.html This is shameful and un-American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Trump should be in leg irons.


    WTF!

    Hung, Shot, Beheaded. Then given a Fair Trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    WTF!

    Hung, Shot, Beheaded. Then given a Fair Trial.
    Exactly, in that order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump and Eastman had a 6 pt plot to overthrow the election.
    Trump's fans say it doesn't count because he didn't actually pull it off. I think this is a novel legal doctrine.

    "Your honor, I did not intend to shoot the complainant. Anyway I missed, so it doesn't count."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump and Eastman had a 6 pt plot to overthrow the election. Pence did not quite follow the plan. https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/polit...emo/index.html This is shameful and un-American.
    Trump yelled at Pence for not going along with the coup.

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