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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    do you know what percentage of Floridians are vaxxed to make such a claim?
    Less than half...which is why FL is going to get hit with a fifth and sixth COVID wave which will kill 10,000-30,000 more DeSantis voters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Life is Golden View Post
    Oh I believe in vaccines. I've had plenty of them. Just not this one. I'm not afraid enough to risk what down the road could be dire side effects. There is not enough data to make a truly informed decision.
    The only person you're sticking it to is yourself.

    The rest of us are happy to watch you choke to death on a ventilator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    you've already shown all you believe are dissidents. I multi-source where possible. I notice you do not dispute Vaxx hesitancy is a Russian thing

    But the governors are doing the mandates lockdowns. etc. much like we do it here
    https://theconversation.com/russias-...vaccine-165925
    Regional governments across Russia have launched several efforts to boost vaccinations, mostly to mixed results.

    Moscow Mayor Sergey Sobyanin has announced that the city will give away five cars every week to vaccinated residents. He also deployed a QR-code system to keep the unvaccinated from indoor restaurants and bars.

    But the requirement was later canceled due to technical hiccups and noncompliance from business owners and customers alike.

    Most regional governments have recently made vaccinations mandatory in the service, trade, health care and transportation industries, imposing harsh punishments on employers who fail to have at least 60% of workers vaccinated.

    And popular tourist destinations such as Sochi, a beach resort city on the Black Sea, have also introduced travel restrictions. The city now requires travelers to prove their vaccination status or to arrive with a negative COVID-19 test.

    Although the latest surge in infections has prompted an uptick in jabs, Russia still has a long way to go before life can return to normal. The Kremlin recently admitted it has failed to reach its target of vaccinating at least 60% of Russians by the autumn of 2021.
    Widespread vaccine skepticism

    Mounting evidence has confirmed the effectiveness of the two-shot Sputnik V vaccine.

    Russia has the highest vaccine hesitancy rates in the world. A recent survey shows that 54% of Russians are unwilling to get vaccinated, a level of reluctance that has remained almost unchanged in the past year. Most vaccine detractors say they would refuse to get inoculated under any circumstances or until there are no proven side effects.
    Vaccine hesitancy can be mitigated with real leadership. Something your party has yet to learn.

    I do not have to frantically google English language websites to know what is going on in Russia, like you do.

    I communicate with actual citizens living there.

    Vladimir Putin's approach to managing the pandemic falls well short of most of his peers in Eastern Europe and Western Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    The only person you're sticking it to is yourself.

    The rest of us are happy to watch you choke to death on a ventilator.
    . Sounds good. You do you -- I'll do me

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    The only person you're sticking it to is yourself.

    The rest of us are happy to watch you choke to death on a ventilator.
    I'm not. I'd rather she -- and millions of other Trump cultists -- would join us and put an end to this fucking plague.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Vaccine hesitancy can be mitigated with real leadership. Something your party has yet to learn.
    ROFL.. tell that to blacks and hispanics here.


    I do not have to frantically google English language websites to know what is going on in Russia, like you do.
    multi-sourcing on not "frantic" - it's good research practice.
    Relying solely on anecdotal from your friends and relatives, is poor practice


    Vladimir Putin's approach to managing the pandemic falls well short of most of his peers in Eastern Europe and Western Europe.
    lots of reason from mandatory vaxxing ( which just increases distrust of the vaxx) by employers / to holdovers from the USSR mandatory vaxxing hesitancy

    if you want to drop your intellectual arrogance and learn something besides what your contacts in Russia say -these should be of interest:

    Want to skip the vaccine in Russia? You could be suspended from work.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...258_story.html
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    In research that predated the pandemic, Borozdina reveals how perceptions of a technocratic, heartless and incompetent government bureaucracy shape the attitudes of Russian parents towards the vaccination of their children.
    https://theconversation.com/making-s...present-165716

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I'm not. I'd rather she -- and millions of other Trump cultists -- would join us and put an end to this fucking plague.
    I just want them to die at this point. I don't care about them anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    ROFL.. tell that to blacks and hispanics here.
    Blacks and Hispanics have a higher vaccination rate than your "very fine people" by a mile...

    All adults: 69 percent
    Men: 67 percent
    Women: 71 percent
    18-34: 63 percent
    35-49: 58 percent
    50-64: 71 percent
    65+: 86 percent
    Whites: 66 percent
    Blacks: 76 percent
    Latinos: 71 percent
    Urban residents: 79 percent
    Suburban residents: 67 percent
    Rural residents: 52 percent
    White evangelicals: 59 percent
    Democrats: 88 percent
    Independents: 60 percent
    Republicans: 55 percent
    Republicans who support Drumpf more than party: 46 percent
    Republicans who support party more than Drumpf: 62 percent
    Democratic Sanders-Warren voters: 88 percent
    Democratic Biden voters: 87 percent
    Biden voters in 2020 general election: 91 percent
    Drumpf voters in 2020 general election: 50 percent
    White non-college grads: 60 percent
    White college grads: 80 percent

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/mee...d-u-s-n1277514
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    multi-sourcing on not "frantic" - it's good research practice.
    Relying solely on anecdotal from your friends and relatives, is poor practice
    WTF.

    You don't do research, you just repeat Russian propaganda.

    Like the propaganda about getting an unsolicited mail in ballot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    ROFL.. tell that to blacks and hispanics here.


    multi-sourcing on not "frantic" - it's good research practice.
    Relying solely on anecdotal from your friends and relatives, is poor practice


    lots of reason from mandatory vaxxing ( which just increases distrust of the vaxx) by employers / to holdovers from the USSR mandatory vaxxing hesitancy

    if you want to drop your intellectual arrogance and learn something besides what your contacts in Russia say -these should be of interest:

    Want to skip the vaccine in Russia? You could be suspended from work.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...258_story.html
    ~~

    In research that predated the pandemic, Borozdina reveals how perceptions of a technocratic, heartless and incompetent government bureaucracy shape the attitudes of Russian parents towards the vaccination of their children.
    https://theconversation.com/making-s...present-165716
    Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, and Serbia are outperforming the Russian Federation in getting their citizens innoculated.

    Words and opinions do not trump math.

    That is a reflection on Putin's leadership concerning the pandemic.


    Russians are not anti-science mystics anymore than Serbians or Kazakhs are.

    Russians have proved over and over they can be mobilized to meet an existential national emergency, and compared to America's bible belt they have a long and demostrated respectful for scientific achievement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    lots of reason from mandatory vaxxing ( which just increases distrust of the vaxx) by employers / to holdovers from the USSR mandatory vaxxing hesitancy
    No...it's not borne about any of that shit.

    It's borne from the constant lies you have been propagandizing on JPP and elsewhere.

    Everything you post is propaganda designed to cause unrest in the US.

    Fucking troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, and Serbia are outperforming the Russian Federation in getting their citizens innoculated.

    Words and opinions do not trump math.

    That is a reflection on Putin's leadership concerning the pandemic.


    Russians are not anti-science mystics anymore than Serbians or Kazakhs are.

    Russians have proved over and over they can be mobilized to meet an existential national emergency, and compared to America's bible belt they have a long and demostrated respectful for scientific achievement.
    missing or ignoring the point as usual. or just your usual Putin bashing -whatever

    Putin is vaxxed putin encourages vaxxing
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/w...a-vaccine.html
    Speaking at his annual televised call-in show, Mr. Putin spent the opening half-hour trying to convince Russians to get one of the country’s four domestically produced shots. It was the latest instance of a marked change in tone about the pandemic from Russian officials, who for months did little to push a vaccine-wary public to get immunized but are now starting to make vaccination mandatory for some groups.

    “It’s dangerous, dangerous to your life,” Mr. Putin said of Covid-19. “The vaccine is not dangerous.”

    ~~

    so you have business mandates, and Putin getting and promoting vaxx, same thing Biden has done
    Yet you applaud Biden and blame Putin.. Your bias is self contradictory

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Blacks and Hispanics have a higher vaccination rate than your "very fine people" by a mile...

    All adults: 69 percent
    Men: 67 percent
    Women: 71 percent
    18-34: 63 percent
    35-49: 58 percent
    50-64: 71 percent
    65+: 86 percent
    Whites: 66 percent
    Blacks: 76 percent
    Latinos: 71 percent
    Urban residents: 79 percent
    Suburban residents: 67 percent
    Rural residents: 52 percent
    White evangelicals: 59 percent
    Democrats: 88 percent
    Independents: 60 percent
    Republicans: 55 percent
    Republicans who support Drumpf more than party: 46 percent
    Republicans who support party more than Drumpf: 62 percent
    Democratic Sanders-Warren voters: 88 percent
    Democratic Biden voters: 87 percent
    Biden voters in 2020 general election: 91 percent
    Drumpf voters in 2020 general election: 50 percent
    White non-college grads: 60 percent
    White college grads: 80 percent

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/mee...d-u-s-n1277514
    Great post, telling statistics... thanks.
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    Hello ThatOwlWoman,

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    The problem with the Reichwing is that when they "question," they never get the answers right, and sometimes use violence instead. See the #InsurrectionOfJan6. Can't you see them storming the CDC or the company where vaccines are made, and burning it to the ground?
    Sadly, it would not be a big surprise to see right wing extremists attack other parts of the federal government or institutions working on the response to the pandemic. Right wing extremists have taken a pro-COVID position, and appear to be actively trying to spread the disease.

    Many feel that by letting the disease take it's course that we can achieve herd immunity sooner and then be done with the pandemic.

    This is a very bad idea. We have never gotten even close to herd immunity but we have already overwhelmed hospitals in several regions.

    The big problem with the right wing approach is that it results in needless deaths.
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    hmmm....1.5 deaths per 100,000......as I have said before, math is not my strong point......what's that come to as a percentage death rate?.....I know its higher than dying from a lightning strike, that's 0.33 per 100,000.......
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