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    Today's mail brought an interesting -- and very sad -- newsletter from the NYT. A snippet:

    "Since Delta began circulating widely in the U.S., Covid has exacted a horrific death toll on red America: In counties where Donald Trump received at least 70 percent of the vote, the virus has killed about 47 out of every 100,000 people since the end of June, according to Charles Gaba, a health care analyst. In counties where Trump won less than 32 percent of the vote, the number is about 10 out of 100,000."




    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/27/b...cinations.html
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    Since it is currently a pandemic of the Deplorable, should it be called the Republican Virus, RepVir-21 now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Since it is currently a pandemic of the Deplorable, should it be called the Republican Virus, RepVir-21 now?
    *sigh* At least here in the U.S. that seems to be true. I wish that the author had expanded a bit more on this: "In much of the rest of the world, vaccine attitudes do not break down along right-left lines, and some conservative leaders have responded effectively to Covid. So have a few Republican governors in the U.S. “It didn’t have to be this way,” German Lopez of Vox has written."

    That was followed by this truthful and chilling bit: "What distinguishes the U.S. is a conservative party — the Republican Party — that has grown hostile to science and empirical evidence in recent decades. A conservative media complex, including Fox News, Sinclair Broadcast Group and various online outlets, echoes and amplifies this hostility. Trump took the conspiratorial thinking to a new level, but he did not create it.

    “With very little resistance from party leaders,” my colleague Lisa Lerer wrote this summer, many Republicans “have elevated falsehoods and doubts about vaccinations from the fringes of American life to the center of our political conversation.”"

    Why the difference between Reichwingers here and elsewhere?
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    The source is the nyt ... so gats ta be tru ... an sinc we be gittin a 'red virus' ... gues we be gittn mo dif vax fo da nu stuf

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    *sigh* At least here in the U.S. that seems to be true. I wish that the author had expanded a bit more on this: "In much of the rest of the world, vaccine attitudes do not break down along right-left lines, and some conservative leaders have responded effectively to Covid. So have a few Republican governors in the U.S. “It didn’t have to be this way,” German Lopez of Vox has written."

    That was followed by this truthful and chilling bit: "What distinguishes the U.S. is a conservative party — the Republican Party — that has grown hostile to science and empirical evidence in recent decades. A conservative media complex, including Fox News, Sinclair Broadcast Group and various online outlets, echoes and amplifies this hostility. Trump took the conspiratorial thinking to a new level, but he did not create it.

    “With very little resistance from party leaders,” my colleague Lisa Lerer wrote this summer, many Republicans “have elevated falsehoods and doubts about vaccinations from the fringes of American life to the center of our political conversation.”"

    Why the difference between Reichwingers here and elsewhere?
    The first thing authoritarians do is train their base supporters to eschew empirical facts and independent media. That gets them accostomed to being trained dogs, only capable of believing propoganda or the Dear Leader.

    This is self evident to people like Vladimir Putin and Aleksandr Lukashenko, who do not take covid super seriously either.

    Ego and pride gets involved too. Authoritarians are known for that. The Trumposphere spent all the critical months of 2020 claiming COVID was either a hoax, or no worse than the common cold.

    It is hard to climb back down from that ledge without admitting your judgement is catastrophically flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
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    The source is the nyt ... so gats ta be tru ... an sinc we be gittin a 'red virus' ... gues we be gittn mo dif vax fo da nu stuf
    Let me guess -- you think the Mayo Clinic is a suspicious liberal source too, right?





    Source: https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/map
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    And the hojo state numbers are ... ???

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    There isn't the word for this from the human perspective, in biological terms anyway. When the host organism facilitates another organism to kill the host.
    It's not parasitic, nor symbiotic. Needs a word.

    I got one, covfefe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
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    And the hojo state numbers are ... ???
    Read the OP link. There are numerous graphs in there showing that overall vax rates are highest where Biden won, lowest where #TRE45ON won -- and that the case and death rates closely follow. In other words, the higher the vax rate, the lower the case numbers (and deaths). It's not magic. It is science. Try it sometime.

    PS -- You can find the exact same data on numerous other sites since you seem to believe the myth that if the NYT says it, it must be fake news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Read the OP link. There are numerous graphs in there showing that overall vax rates are highest where Biden won, lowest where #TRE45ON won -- and that the case and death rates closely follow. In other words, the higher the vax rate, the lower the case numbers (and deaths). It's not magic. It is science. Try it sometime.

    PS -- You can find the exact same data on numerous other sites since you seem to believe the myth that if the NYT says it, it must be fake news.
    Since you like maps from pro dimlib sites ... here's one for you ...

    https://time.com/5800901/coronavirus-map/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The first thing authoritarians do is train their base supporters to eschew empirical facts and independent media. That gets them accostomed to being trained dogs, only capable of believing propoganda or the Dear Leader.

    This is self evident to people like Vladimir Putin and Aleksandr Lukashenko, who do not take covid super seriously either.

    Ego and pride gets involved too. Authoritarians are known for that. The Trumposphere spent all the critical months of 2020 claiming COVID was either a hoax, or no worse than the common cold.

    It is hard to climb back down from that ledge without admitting your judgement is catastrophically flawed.
    what evidence is Putin doesnt take COVID seriously?
    I dont know about Lukashenko -other then he's got a migrant crisis on his border
    https://tass.com/world/1342779

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
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    And the hojo state numbers are ... ???
    Just get fucking vaccinated, you loser.

    Jesus...are you really this starved for attention?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    what evidence is Putin doesnt take COVID seriously?
    The fact that you didn't take it seriously, since you are his propagandist on JPP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    what evidence is Putin doesnt take COVID seriously?
    I dont know about Lukashenko -other then he's got a migrant crisis on his border
    https://tass.com/world/1342779
    My relatives in Russia say that few people wears masks on the subway, and that because of Putin's pride and xenophobia he is not allowing effective and safe western vaccines into the country in any substantial way, making Russians rely on the homegrown, second tier vaccines currently available.

    Russia's innoculation rate also seriously lags well behind Eastern Europe and Western Europe.

    Collectively, it is a failure of leadership along Trumpian proportions.

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    Thankfully Covid is fading away in Florida. Numbers down by 40% since last week.
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