The Famous Baldwin-Buckley Debate Still Matters Today
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When it was his turn, Buckley argued that Baldwin was being treated with kid gloves, so to speak, because he claimed to be a victim. “The fact that your skin is black,” he averred, “is utterly irrelevant to the arguments you raise.” Baldwin, he said slowly and full of a quiet anger, was a violent enemy of the southern way of life who delivered “flagellations of our civilization” and of America as a whole. Forcing the American South to abandon its way of life and accept government-mandated integration, he insisted, would be immoral. Ultimately, the audience disagreed, and Baldwin won the debate, 540 to 160.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/entertai...debate/602695/
When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist
Are you sure?
Are you really, really sure?
Do you really, really want a 40 year old showing you up on an anonymous message board?
OK...don't say I didn't warn you...
Why The South Must Prevail
William F. Buckley
August 24th, 1957
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The central question that emerges-and it is not a parliamentary question or a question that is answered by merely consulting a catalogue of the rights of American citizens, born Equal -is whether the White community in the South is entitled to take such measures as are necessary to prevail, politically and culturally, in areas in which it does not predominate numerically? The sobering answer is Yes -the White community is so entitled because, for the time being, it is the advanced race.
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What are such issues? Is school integration one? The NAACP and others insist that the Negroes as a unit want integrated schools. Others disagree, contending that most Negroes approve the social separation of the races. What if the NAACP is correct, and the matter comes to a vote in a community in which Negroes predominate? The Negroes would, according to democratic processes, win the election; but that is the kind of situation the White community will not permit. The White community will not count the marginal Negro vote. The man who didn't count it will be hauled up before a jury, he will plead not guilty, and the jury, upon deliberation, will find him not guilty. A federal judge, in a similar situation, might find the defendant guilty, a judgment which would affirm the law and conform with the relevant political abstractions, but whose consequences might be violent and anarchistic.
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http://precaution.org/lib/buckley_wh...).19570824.pdf
Conservatism was/is a negative reaction to desegregation, as Buckley wrote.
So it's always been about race for Conservatives.
Last edited by LV426; 09-27-2021 at 03:50 PM.
When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist
I voted straight Republican, but the candidates just kept getting dumber...and dumber...and dumber... and the ideas fewer
and fewer and fewer.
Reagan- actor becomes president, "we can recall the nuclear missiles, right?"
Bush II- "stay the course"
Bush III- "Our enemies are smart, they never stop thinking of ways to harm our country, and neither do we!"
Trump - "covfefe"
When I die, turn me into a brick and use me to cave in the skull of a fascist
Tell that to Portland and Seattle.
The converse is actually the truth. Democrats cannot win with their policies and charisma, so they had to cheat to win.
Portland and Seattle are fully Democrat-controlled and lawless shitholes.
I'll add Chicago, Detroit, NYC, and LA in there as well.
Last edited by Matt Dillon; 09-27-2021 at 04:07 PM.
Extremism begets extremism. You proved that earlier in the thread against me and on other threads.
IMO, extremism isn't the answer in civilized situations. Only in war should one go to extremes. Despite all the drama, the theatrics and even the murderous nutjobs, America is not at war with itself. We're just evolving. Growing up.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
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