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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Agreed on the historical trend of Midterms costing the party of the WH occupant.

    However, these are odd times and the Republicans have proved to be excellent at shooting themselves in the foot with "Ready, Fire, Aim!" bullshit lying about COVID, the Insurrection, Trump's anti-Constitutional (if not criminal) actions and anti-science/anti-vax agenda.

    It's almost nine months since the Insurrection. Only the plea deals of non-violent offenders are coming out. The violent offenders are still holding out, under investigation or awaiting trial....and with 14,000 hours of video (Thanks Trump! ) the evidence is very damning.

    Those fuckers are all going to go away. Whether it's for 20 years or 10 with a plea deal to testify against who gave the orders all remains to be seen.

    Certainly all the rational, educated American adults on this forum can see this is not going to be good for the Insurrectionists or the Republican party next year or in November 2024.

    Because there was no insurrection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    That’s an evil take


    How about the state can’t force people to gestate if they don’t choose to gestate
    Think about it, why do woman choose to have an abortion? Most likely because they either cannot afford to raise a child or don't want one in the first place. So they leave the hospital after giving birth without the child.

    If abortion were to be eliminated it stands a reason that most of these kids end up getting dumped into the laps of the state to raise and care for until they are 18, all at state expense of course.

    Granted some newborns will be adopted however each year the numbers are growing of children who remain in the care of the state/foster homes. Now, multiply that number of newborns given to the state to care for by a factor of 10 and see how the numbers grow dramatically. In ten years the costs would be astronomical and the taxpayers get to foot the entire bill.

    It may be an evil take, but it's a realistic one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    The Democrats will see to that with bills like HR 1 the Fuck the Voters Act, or HR 4 the John Lewis Voter Fraud Act... You see, the Left is so delusional that they think just because these illegals are poor they'll vote Democrat. They couldn't be more wrong. They'll vote against Leftist government because they've lived under Leftist government.



    This is racist bullshit idiot


    You are a racist sack of evil shit


    Climb back into the sewer before the boot comes for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    No, it's not. My position is that there is a place for governmental powers at all levels and all changes should be at the lowest level possible. Whenever a group of Americans band together for a town or county, they can best tax and appropriate money for projects such as a new fairground or an additional well and pump house. Sometimes it benefits the towns or counties to make deals with adjoining or other towns/counties for mutual gain. Projects beyond their means or scope get bumped up for State decisions. Like counties and towns, State can banded together for mutual gain such as mass buying of textbooks, a point of political discourse.

    Marketplace rules apply to almost everything including text books. The biggest buyer has the biggest sway on what they like in textbooks. Texas was the biggest buyer and liberals revolted.

    States rights over Federal domination.

    https://nybooks.com/articles/2012/06...xtbooks-on-us/
    How Texas Inflicts Bad Textbooks on Us
    Gail Collins June 21, 2012 issue
    There is a substantial level of hypocrisy in your grand plan, Oom.

    You want to preserve the unified republic.
    You want the entire republic to adopt your states' rights philosophy.
    Liberal states have no interest in that, but you would impose it on them while pretending to be an advocate for freedom.

    Partition is the way to make the greater number of people happy.
    If you truly valued freedom, you'd embrace the concept.
    But you don't. You embrace your 9th grade civics class level of political sophistication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    We don’t want to ban them all
    Banning ANY of them is unconstitutional. Banning ANY accessory for a weapon is unconstitutional. Yes, many Democrats want to ban them all.
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    Lying about it is dishonest as hell
    Lying about it, as you are doing, is as dishonest as hell.
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    You are buying a corrupted NRA meme concocted by the Republican party
    The NRA is not run by the Republican party.
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    Please stop this dishonesty
    Please stop your dishonesty.
    ...who am I kidding? You can't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    My position is that there is a place for governmental powers at all levels and all changes should be at the lowest level possible
    Why? That is incoherent.



    Whenever a group of Americans band together for a town or county, they can best tax and appropriate money for projects such as a new fairground or an additional well and pump house.
    Well, a well and pump house would be infrastructure, so I don't understand why it matters that the federal government doesn't build it?

    Again, you're incoherent.

    We aren't talking about fairgrounds, we are talking about public transportation...at least we were talking about public transportation before you decided to unilaterally change the subject because the debate was headed in a direction that wasn't going to be favorable for you.
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    Fucking Milquetoast Macaw is still here.
    Is it time for my ignore list to fill up again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamewell45 View Post
    Think about it, why do woman choose to have an abortion? Most likely because they either cannot afford to raise a child or don't want one in the first place. So they leave the hospital after giving birth without the child.

    If abortion were to be eliminated it stands a reason that most of these kids end up getting dumped into the laps of the state to raise and care for until they are 18, all at state expense of course.

    Granted some newborns will be adopted however each year the numbers are growing of children who remain in the care of the state/foster homes. Now, multiply that number of newborns given to the state to care for by a factor of 10 and see how the numbers grow dramatically. In ten years the costs would be astronomical and the taxpayers get to foot the entire bill.

    It may be an evil take, but it's a realistic one.
    This is called 'not taking responsibility for your actions'. It is selfish. It is murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Sometimes it benefits the towns or counties to make deals with adjoining or other towns/counties for mutual gain. Projects beyond their means or scope get bumped up for State decisions. Like counties and towns, State can banded together for mutual gain such as mass buying of textbooks, a point of political discourse.
    So do kids in Texas learn a different kind of Algebra than kids in Massachusetts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamewell45 View Post
    Think about it, why do woman choose to have an abortion? Most likely because they either cannot afford to raise a child or don't want one in the first place. So they leave the hospital after giving birth without the child.

    If abortion were to be eliminated it stands a reason that most of these kids end up getting dumped into the laps of the state to raise and care for until they are 18, all at state expense of course.

    Granted some newborns will be adopted however each year the numbers are growing of children who remain in the care of the state/foster homes. Now, multiply that number of newborns given to the state to care for by a factor of 10 and see how the numbers grow dramatically. In ten years the costs would be astronomical and the taxpayers get to foot the entire bill.

    It may be an evil take, but it's a realistic one.


    History clearly shows what happens when abortion is illegal



    Wealthy people take a trip to where it is legal


    Poor and middle people get illegal dangerous criminals ones



    Making abortion illegal saves no one


    It just gets humans dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Marketplace rules apply to almost everything including text books. The biggest buyer has the biggest sway on what they like in textbooks. Texas was the biggest buyer and liberals revolted.
    OK, but why should those rules apply to public services? Do kids in Michigan learn a different alphabet than kids in Oklahoma?

    This is precisely what I mean when I say you're incoherent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    So do kids in Texas learn a different kind of Algebra than kids in Massachusetts?
    They do get an altered history of slavery and segregation

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    So do kids in Texas learn a different kind of Algebra than kids in Massachusetts?
    They sure as fuck learn a different kind of English, I'll tell you that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    There is a substantial level of hypocrisy in your grand plan, Oom.

    You want to preserve the unified republic.
    You want the entire republic to adopt your states' rights philosophy.
    Liberal states have no interest in that, but you would impose it on them while pretending to be an advocate for freedom.

    Partition is the way to make the greater number of people happy.
    If you truly valued freedom, you'd embrace the concept.
    But you don't. You embrace your 9th grade civics class level of political sophistication.
    Dutch should know that you're not allowed to have a position that East Coast It Notes has already mocked:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    This is called 'not taking responsibility for your actions'. It is selfish. It is murder.
    None of your fucking business


    How about we solve this problem by making all men sterile until they have a partner who agrees to have a child



    Not very fair huh


    Don’t ask women to answer to you on their medical conditions

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