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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    If you think the Taliban and ISIS are no longer in a war against America, you are a fool.

    America may have stopped fighting but the terrorists have not.

    That war is coming to America and Europe.
    Thank your #TRE45ONous former wannabe-dictator for that then, Trumpanzee. He's the one who courted the Taliban and came up with the withdrawal plans. Remember that he wanted to even host them at Camp David, till wiser heads talked him out of it.

    $100 says you Reichwingers won't be uttering a peep about Afghanistan, the withdrawal, or the Taliban if it had all happened exactly the same -- in 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    And guess where it started? Trump was the 1st one to say that. Immediately, talk radio, Fox & his supporters started parroting it.

    The figure for actual weapons is closer to $18 billion. Of that, the vast majority was demilitarized and rendered useless prior to the U.S.. leaving Afghanistan. Anything remaining had already been gifted to the Afghan army and was likely in Taliban hands, but the military considered most of it to be primitive and defunct.

    Getting any of that out would have complicated, time-consuming and likely would have cost lives.

    But when did the idea that something is a complete lie get in the GOP's way? They no longer care about truth, at all.
    Getting that out is our responsibility, would not cost lives, and it was NOT rendered useless.
    Face it. Biden gave weapons to the enemy in time of war. That's an impeachable offense. It is also treason.
    So is leaving American citizens to the enemy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Thank your #TRE45ONous former wannabe-dictator for that then, Trumpanzee. He's the one who courted the Taliban and came up with the withdrawal plans. Remember that he wanted to even host them at Camp David, till wiser heads talked him out of it.

    $100 says you Reichwingers won't be uttering a peep about Afghanistan, the withdrawal, or the Taliban if it had all happened exactly the same -- in 2020.
    no
    Trump came up with the plan to leave in an orderly conditions based withdrawal
    And it was working. No combat deaths and he got us from 11k down to 2k troops in the last 18 months.

    The evac was all Bidens FUBAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    no
    Trump came up with the plan to leave in an orderly conditions based withdrawal
    And it was working. No combat deaths and he got us from 11k down to 2k troops in the last 18 months.

    The evac was all Bidens FUBAR
    Why are you spreading misinformation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    no
    Trump came up with the plan to leave in an orderly conditions based withdrawal
    And it was working. No combat deaths and he got us from 11k down to 2k troops in the last 18 months.

    The evac was all Bidens FUBAR
    yeah and the Taliban was going to go along for some reason. The Taliban won and they helped us evacuate. It was orderly as possible. I guess trump would have stopped a suicide bomber.

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    The truth literally does not matter to the right anymore.

    It may as well not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    The $80 billion?

    It's a completely false claim.

    The right no longer cares about truth, or reality. It's useless to argue. But it's $18 billion according to the military, and all of the actual facts that we have on it.
    Are you nitpicking on the $ value?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Are you nitpicking on the $ value?
    "Nitpicking"?

    $80 billion vs. $18 billion? And the latter is mostly defunct, disabled & primitive equipment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    "Nitpicking"?

    $80 billion vs. $18 billion? And the latter is mostly defunct, disabled & primitive equipment?
    So Biden funded the Taliban with at least 18billion $.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    So Biden funded the Taliban with at least 18billion $.
    Nope. That's inaccurate too.

    Most of it is defunct, demilitarized and unusable.

    Facts. Reality. Truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Why are you spreading misinformation?
    idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    idiot
    LOL - your go-to.

    Spread misinformation, then insult. Never mind debating what's actually happening in reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    yeah and the Taliban was going to go along for some reason. The Taliban won and they helped us evacuate. It was orderly as possible. I guess trump would have stopped a suicide bomber.
    Taliban was "going along" because Trump warned them if they didnt he would hit them
    with airstrikes -and if Americans were killed he'd go after their leadership -not "some reason"
    those were specific warnings.

    Trump would not have have had us in a position for suicide bombers outside the gates of airport.
    The Taliban even OFFERED FULL CONTROL OF KABUL to Biden -who turned it down.

    Biden grossly fucked up and got Americans bombed as well as the weapons
    and an EVAC instead of withdrawal

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    LOL - your go-to.

    Spread misinformation, then insult. Never mind debating what's actually happening in reality.
    idiot. you can't even explain my "misinformation" - you are a fool, and I dont suffer fools gladly

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Taliban was "going along" because Trump warned them if they didnt he would hit them
    with airstrikes -and if Americans were killed he'd go after their leadership -not "some reason"
    those were specific warnings.

    Trump would not have have had us in a position for suicide bombers outside the gates of airport.
    The Taliban even OFFERED FULL CONTROL OF KABUL to Biden -who turned it down.

    Biden grossly fucked up and got Americans bombed as well as the weapons
    and an EVAC instead of withdrawal
    Entirely false.

    Biden ended a 2 decade war. Sorry that it was tough for you to see that.

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