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    "A conservative lawyer working with then-President Donald Trump's legal team tried to convince then-Vice President Mike Pence that he could overturn the election results on January 6 when Congress counted the Electoral College votes by throwing out electors from seven states"

    "The scheme put forward by lawyer John Eastman was outlined in a two-page memo which has not previously been made public, provides new detail showing how Trump and his team tried to persuade Pence to subvert the Constitution and throw out the election results on January 6."

    "The Eastman memo laid out a six-step plan for Pence to overturn the election for Trump, which included throwing out the results in seven states because they allegedly had competing electors. In fact, no state had actually put forward an alternate slate of electors -- there were merely Trump allies claiming without any authority to be electors."

    "Under Eastman's scheme, Pence would have declared Trump the winner with more Electoral College votes after the seven states were thrown out, at 232 votes to 222. Anticipating "howls" from Democrats protesting the overturning of the election, the memo proposes, Pence would instead say that no candidate had reached 270 votes in the Electoral College. That would throw the election to the House of Representatives, where each state would get one vote. Since Republicans controlled 26 state delegations, a majority could vote for Trump to win the election."

    The plan was first proposed to Pence when Eastman was with Trump in the Oval Office on January 4, during one of Trump's attempts to convince Pence that he had the authority to stop the certification of the election."

    "You really need to listen to John. He's a respected constitutional scholar. Hear him out," Trump said to Pence at that meeting"

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/20/polit...emo/index.html

    This isn't a brainstorming session nor some maverick assistance coming up with ideas, but an actual plan that Trump not only bought but tried to convince Pence to enact. Certainly explains why Trump told the crowd that morning that Pence has to "to the right thing," and why Trump crucified Pence on twitter shortly thereafter

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    That shows how much of a patriot Trump is. The country couldn't manage without him, so he had to be President. <SARC>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    That shows how much of a patriot Trump is. The country couldn't manage without him, so he had to be President. <SARC>
    Actually a little scary, especially considering if he had managed to pull it off a near entire political party would have supported him and a major news network would have defended him

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    Kind of goes to show how fragile this 'Democratic' Government is. When 'One Man, One Vote' doesn't decide the Winner, anything can happen.
    It looks like things are being put in place to make sure the 'correct' candidate becomes the next President, you know, the one chosen by the correct people.

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    Long time Repub says it is time to worry. https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2024-david-gergen/ The end of the American experiment is possible and it will be Trump causing it.

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    As Eastman well knew, no President in over two centuries has tried anything like that. I don't know of one who would even have considered it. I guess Trump is something special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    As Eastman well knew, no President in over two centuries has tried anything like that. I don't know of one who would even have considered it. I guess Trump is something special.
    Trump looks up to Putin. Putin probably encouraged Trump. Maybe gave Trump some tips. Let's be real here. We're lucky Biden wasn't poisoned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    As Eastman well knew, no President in over two centuries has tried anything like that. I don't know of one who would even have considered it. I guess Trump is something special.
    FDR gave us the New Deal to save "capitalism". The food riots of 1931 were 90 years ago and the Civil War was 161 years ago. The entire system is close to collapse, so that will make 3 revolts in less than 2 centuries.

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    "How is this not an attempted coup?"
    well, for one thing, no one actually attempted it.....
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Hello archives,

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    "A conservative lawyer working with then-President Donald Trump's legal team tried to convince then-Vice President Mike Pence that he could overturn the election results on January 6 when Congress counted the Electoral College votes by throwing out electors from seven states"

    "The scheme put forward by lawyer John Eastman was outlined in a two-page memo which has not previously been made public, provides new detail showing how Trump and his team tried to persuade Pence to subvert the Constitution and throw out the election results on January 6."

    "The Eastman memo laid out a six-step plan for Pence to overturn the election for Trump, which included throwing out the results in seven states because they allegedly had competing electors. In fact, no state had actually put forward an alternate slate of electors -- there were merely Trump allies claiming without any authority to be electors."

    "Under Eastman's scheme, Pence would have declared Trump the winner with more Electoral College votes after the seven states were thrown out, at 232 votes to 222. Anticipating "howls" from Democrats protesting the overturning of the election, the memo proposes, Pence would instead say that no candidate had reached 270 votes in the Electoral College. That would throw the election to the House of Representatives, where each state would get one vote. Since Republicans controlled 26 state delegations, a majority could vote for Trump to win the election."

    The plan was first proposed to Pence when Eastman was with Trump in the Oval Office on January 4, during one of Trump's attempts to convince Pence that he had the authority to stop the certification of the election."

    "You really need to listen to John. He's a respected constitutional scholar. Hear him out," Trump said to Pence at that meeting"

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/20/polit...emo/index.html

    This isn't a brainstorming session nor some maverick assistance coming up with ideas, but an actual plan that Trump not only bought but tried to convince Pence to enact. Certainly explains why Trump told the crowd that morning that Pence has to "to the right thing," and why Trump crucified Pence on twitter shortly thereafter
    This is pretty convincing evidence that Trump was absolutely trying to subvert the election.

    I hope he is charged with a crime over this, but I can see why it would not happen. Enforcing the law just becomes so political at the top level. It needs to be an ironclad case. I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly what kind of evidence would be needed. But I get it that if it is not a rock solid case, and it gets brought, and Trump is not convicted, then that plays right into his 'witch hunt' narrative, and ends up hurting the Democrats and the rule of law.

    It's just so frustrating that he can do this subversive stuff and get right away with it. That hurts our nation, too.

    It's just mind-boggling.

    How can Trump get this close to destroying our democracy and NOT have to answer for it? He was trying to overturn the legal election. He sent that mob to the capitol to do just that. If that is not incitement of insurrection, then what is it?
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    Talking about coups, why isn't the likes of Shrillary and her gang in jail for the bullshit Russian probe, eh Arsecheese?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Long time Repub says it is time to worry. https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2024-david-gergen/ The end of the American experiment is possible and it will be Trump causing it.
    Raw Sewage, I thought even you were better than that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
    Talking about coups, why isn't the likes of Shrillary and her gang in jail for the bullshit Russian probe, eh Arsecheese?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    "A conservative lawyer working with then-President Donald Trump's legal team tried to convince then-Vice President Mike Pence that he could overturn the election results on January 6 when Congress counted the Electoral College votes by throwing out electors from seven states"

    "The scheme put forward by lawyer John Eastman was outlined in a two-page memo which has not previously been made public, provides new detail showing how Trump and his team tried to persuade Pence to subvert the Constitution and throw out the election results on January 6."

    "The Eastman memo laid out a six-step plan for Pence to overturn the election for Trump, which included throwing out the results in seven states because they allegedly had competing electors. In fact, no state had actually put forward an alternate slate of electors -- there were merely Trump allies claiming without any authority to be electors."

    "Under Eastman's scheme, Pence would have declared Trump the winner with more Electoral College votes after the seven states were thrown out, at 232 votes to 222. Anticipating "howls" from Democrats protesting the overturning of the election, the memo proposes, Pence would instead say that no candidate had reached 270 votes in the Electoral College. That would throw the election to the House of Representatives, where each state would get one vote. Since Republicans controlled 26 state delegations, a majority could vote for Trump to win the election."

    The plan was first proposed to Pence when Eastman was with Trump in the Oval Office on January 4, during one of Trump's attempts to convince Pence that he had the authority to stop the certification of the election."

    "You really need to listen to John. He's a respected constitutional scholar. Hear him out," Trump said to Pence at that meeting"

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/20/polit...emo/index.html

    This isn't a brainstorming session nor some maverick assistance coming up with ideas, but an actual plan that Trump not only bought but tried to convince Pence to enact. Certainly explains why Trump told the crowd that morning that Pence has to "to the right thing," and why Trump crucified Pence on twitter shortly thereafter
    After all the bullshit, lies and fairy stories concocted by CNN, why the fuck should anybody believe this? You Septics deserve your piss poor media.


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