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"A conservative lawyer working with then-President Donald Trump's legal team tried to convince then-Vice President Mike Pence that he could overturn the election results on January 6 when Congress counted the Electoral College votes by throwing out electors from seven states"
"The scheme put forward by lawyer John Eastman was outlined in a two-page memo which has not previously been made public, provides new detail showing how Trump and his team tried to persuade Pence to subvert the Constitution and throw out the election results on January 6."
"The Eastman memo laid out a six-step plan for Pence to overturn the election for Trump, which included throwing out the results in seven states because they allegedly had competing electors. In fact, no state had actually put forward an alternate slate of electors -- there were merely Trump allies claiming without any authority to be electors."
"Under Eastman's scheme, Pence would have declared Trump the winner with more Electoral College votes after the seven states were thrown out, at 232 votes to 222. Anticipating "howls" from Democrats protesting the overturning of the election, the memo proposes, Pence would instead say that no candidate had reached 270 votes in the Electoral College. That would throw the election to the House of Representatives, where each state would get one vote. Since Republicans controlled 26 state delegations, a majority could vote for Trump to win the election."
The plan was first proposed to Pence when Eastman was with Trump in the Oval Office on January 4, during one of Trump's attempts to convince Pence that he had the authority to stop the certification of the election."
"You really need to listen to John. He's a respected constitutional scholar. Hear him out," Trump said to Pence at that meeting"
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/20/polit...emo/index.html
This isn't a brainstorming session nor some maverick assistance coming up with ideas, but an actual plan that Trump not only bought but tried to convince Pence to enact. Certainly explains why Trump told the crowd that morning that Pence has to "to the right thing," and why Trump crucified Pence on twitter shortly thereafter
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Guno צְבִי (09-25-2021), Jack (09-25-2021), PoliTalker (09-25-2021), Tranquillus in Exile (09-25-2021)
That shows how much of a patriot Trump is. The country couldn't manage without him, so he had to be President. <SARC>
Guno צְבִי (09-25-2021), PoliTalker (09-25-2021), Trumpet (09-26-2021)
Guno צְבִי (09-25-2021), Jack (09-25-2021), PoliTalker (09-25-2021), Trumpet (09-26-2021)
Kind of goes to show how fragile this 'Democratic' Government is. When 'One Man, One Vote' doesn't decide the Winner, anything can happen.
It looks like things are being put in place to make sure the 'correct' candidate becomes the next President, you know, the one chosen by the correct people.
Guno צְבִי (09-25-2021), PoliTalker (09-25-2021), Trumpet (09-26-2021)
Long time Repub says it is time to worry. https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2024-david-gergen/ The end of the American experiment is possible and it will be Trump causing it.
cancel2 2022 (09-25-2021)
Guno צְבִי (09-25-2021)
As Eastman well knew, no President in over two centuries has tried anything like that. I don't know of one who would even have considered it. I guess Trump is something special.
Guno צְבִי (09-25-2021), PoliTalker (09-25-2021)
cancel2 2022 (09-25-2021)
Guno צְבִי (09-25-2021), PoliTalker (09-25-2021)
Callinectes (09-25-2021), Controlled Opposition (09-26-2021)
well, for one thing, no one actually attempted it....."How is this not an attempted coup?"
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
cancel2 2022 (09-25-2021), Controlled Opposition (09-26-2021), Matt Dillon (09-27-2021)
Hello archives,
This is pretty convincing evidence that Trump was absolutely trying to subvert the election.
I hope he is charged with a crime over this, but I can see why it would not happen. Enforcing the law just becomes so political at the top level. It needs to be an ironclad case. I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly what kind of evidence would be needed. But I get it that if it is not a rock solid case, and it gets brought, and Trump is not convicted, then that plays right into his 'witch hunt' narrative, and ends up hurting the Democrats and the rule of law.
It's just so frustrating that he can do this subversive stuff and get right away with it. That hurts our nation, too.
It's just mind-boggling.
How can Trump get this close to destroying our democracy and NOT have to answer for it? He was trying to overturn the legal election. He sent that mob to the capitol to do just that. If that is not incitement of insurrection, then what is it?
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Guno צְבִי (09-25-2021), Tranquillus in Exile (09-26-2021)
Talking about coups, why isn't the likes of Shrillary and her gang in jail for the bullshit Russian probe, eh Arsecheese?
Controlled Opposition (09-26-2021), Matt Dillon (09-27-2021)
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