Our children dont want racism

[T. A. Gardner]

Obviously you do not understand what CRT is, and that is not unusual for your kind of fool. Studying racism to make sure it does not happen again is not "codifying" racism. However, it is the right wing that has, and will continue to do so, that wishes it were. And ignoring it makes it easier for that to happen, and for it to be codified, as is happening in States like Texas, and Georgia.

Cite the works you claim say that.

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...d_the_Movement
https://www.law.utoronto.ca/utfl_fil...ber/capers.pdf
https://www.wsj.com/articles/kimberl...on-11626793272

Crenshaw was asked directly in this interview if CRT is Marxist. Crenshaw avoided the question entirely.
https://thepostmillennial.com/reid-crenshaw-crt-marxism

https://www.historicalmaterialism.or...ty-and-marxism

It is exactly what I claim it is.

[Old Trapper]

Cite the works you claim say that.

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...d_the_Movement
https://www.law.utoronto.ca/utfl_fil...ber/capers.pdf
https://www.wsj.com/articles/kimberl...on-11626793272

Crenshaw was asked directly in this interview if CRT is Marxist. Crenshaw avoided the question entirely.
https://thepostmillennial.com/reid-crenshaw-crt-marxism

https://www.historicalmaterialism.or...ty-and-marxism

It is exactly what I claim it is.

Bull,. YOUR claim is that it is a way to codify racism which is a lie, and you have presented no studies that prove it to be so. Instead you rely on innuendo, not reality, or facts.

"What is critical race theory?

Why was critical race theory developed?

Critical race theory developed in the 1970s as an effort by activists and legal scholars to understand why the U.S. civil rights movement had lost momentum and was in danger of being reversed. Their approach emphasized general and systemic features of the legal system that served to perpetuate race-based oppression and white privilege.

Why is critical race theory important?

critical race theory (CRT), intellectual and social movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour. Critical race theorists hold that racism is inherent in the law and legal institutions of the United States insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans. Critical race theorists are generally dedicated to applying their understanding of the institutional or structural nature of racism to the concrete (if distant) goal of eliminating all race-based and other unjust hierarchies.

Background and early history

Critical race theory (CRT) was officially organized in 1989, at the first annual Workshop on Critical Race Theory, though its intellectual origins go back much farther, to the 1960s and ’70s. Its immediate precursor was the critical legal studies (CLS) movement, which dedicated itself to examining how the law and legal institutions serve the interests of the wealthy and powerful at the expense of the poor and marginalized. (CLS, an offshoot of Marxist-oriented critical theory, may also be viewed as a radicalization of early 20th-century legal realism, a school of legal philosophy according to which judicial decision making, especially at the appellate level, is influenced as much by nonlegal—political or ideological—factors as by precedent and principles of legal reasoning.) Like CLS scholars, critical race theorists believed that political liberalism was incapable of adequately addressing fundamental problems of injustice in American society (notwithstanding legislation and court rulings advancing civil rights in the 1950s and ’60s), because its emphasis on the equitable treatment under the law of all races (“colour blindness”) rendered it capable of recognizing only the most overt and obvious racist practices, not those that were relatively indirect, subtle, or systemic. Liberalism was also faulted for mistakenly presupposing the apolitical nature of judicial decision making and for taking a self-consciously incremental or reformist approach that prolonged unjust social arrangements and afforded opportunities for retrenchment and backsliding through administrative delays and conservative legal challenges. Unlike most CLS scholars, however, critical race theorists did not wish to abandon the notions of law or legal rights altogether, because, in their experience, some laws and legal reforms had done much to help oppressed or exploited people.

Basic tenets of critical race theory

According to the legal scholars Richard Delgado (one of the founders of CRT) and Jean Stefancic there are several general propositions regarding race and racism that many critical race theorists would accept, despite the considerable variation of belief among members of the movement. These propositions constitute a set of “basic tenets” of CRT."

https://www.britannica.com/topic/critical-race-theory

[Matt Dillon]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/23/us/pe...sed/index.html



This is the world for real racists



These kids don’t want to carry your brain cancer on society into the future


It’s over


Go back underground

Think your stupid ideas 24/7


leave decent society alone with your stupid


Your lame ideas will buy you nothing but scorn in public


Go back under ground


It’s the only safe place for you



Fox better shut up or it will be sued out of business

This saith Desh, and I'll make a prediction that Fox doesn't gaf.

[Matt Dillon]

Bull,. YOUR claim is that it is a way to codify racism which is a lie, and you have presented no studies that prove it to be so. Instead you rely on innuendo, not reality, or facts.

"What is critical race theory?

Why was critical race theory developed?

Critical race theory developed in the 1970s as an effort by activists and legal scholars to understand why the U.S. civil rights movement had lost momentum and was in danger of being reversed. Their approach emphasized general and systemic features of the legal system that served to perpetuate race-based oppression and white privilege.

Why is critical race theory important?

critical race theory (CRT), intellectual and social movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour. Critical race theorists hold that racism is inherent in the law and legal institutions of the United States insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans. Critical race theorists are generally dedicated to applying their understanding of the institutional or structural nature of racism to the concrete (if distant) goal of eliminating all race-based and other unjust hierarchies.

Background and early history

Critical race theory (CRT) was officially organized in 1989, at the first annual Workshop on Critical Race Theory, though its intellectual origins go back much farther, to the 1960s and ’70s. Its immediate precursor was the critical legal studies (CLS) movement, which dedicated itself to examining how the law and legal institutions serve the interests of the wealthy and powerful at the expense of the poor and marginalized. (CLS, an offshoot of Marxist-oriented critical theory, may also be viewed as a radicalization of early 20th-century legal realism, a school of legal philosophy according to which judicial decision making, especially at the appellate level, is influenced as much by nonlegal—political or ideological—factors as by precedent and principles of legal reasoning.) Like CLS scholars, critical race theorists believed that political liberalism was incapable of adequately addressing fundamental problems of injustice in American society (notwithstanding legislation and court rulings advancing civil rights in the 1950s and ’60s), because its emphasis on the equitable treatment under the law of all races (“colour blindness”) rendered it capable of recognizing only the most overt and obvious racist practices, not those that were relatively indirect, subtle, or systemic. Liberalism was also faulted for mistakenly presupposing the apolitical nature of judicial decision making and for taking a self-consciously incremental or reformist approach that prolonged unjust social arrangements and afforded opportunities for retrenchment and backsliding through administrative delays and conservative legal challenges. Unlike most CLS scholars, however, critical race theorists did not wish to abandon the notions of law or legal rights altogether, because, in their experience, some laws and legal reforms had done much to help oppressed or exploited people.

Basic tenets of critical race theory

According to the legal scholars Richard Delgado (one of the founders of CRT) and Jean Stefancic there are several general propositions regarding race and racism that many critical race theorists would accept, despite the considerable variation of belief among members of the movement. These propositions constitute a set of “basic tenets” of CRT."

https://www.britannica.com/topic/critical-race-theory

Critical race theory was developed by commie faggot mush heads that are incapable of feeding themselves or others or building anything.

That's all one needs to know. They probably can't even cook.

[T. A. Gardner]

Bull,. YOUR claim is that it is a way to codify racism which is a lie, and you have presented no studies that prove it to be so. Instead you rely on innuendo, not reality, or facts.

"What is critical race theory?

Why was critical race theory developed?

Critical race theory developed in the 1970s as an effort by activists and legal scholars to understand why the U.S. civil rights movement had lost momentum and was in danger of being reversed. Their approach emphasized general and systemic features of the legal system that served to perpetuate race-based oppression and white privilege.

Why is critical race theory important?

critical race theory (CRT), intellectual and social movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour. Critical race theorists hold that racism is inherent in the law and legal institutions of the United States insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans. Critical race theorists are generally dedicated to applying their understanding of the institutional or structural nature of racism to the concrete (if distant) goal of eliminating all race-based and other unjust hierarchies.

Background and early history

Critical race theory (CRT) was officially organized in 1989, at the first annual Workshop on Critical Race Theory, though its intellectual origins go back much farther, to the 1960s and ’70s. Its immediate precursor was the critical legal studies (CLS) movement, which dedicated itself to examining how the law and legal institutions serve the interests of the wealthy and powerful at the expense of the poor and marginalized. (CLS, an offshoot of Marxist-oriented critical theory, may also be viewed as a radicalization of early 20th-century legal realism, a school of legal philosophy according to which judicial decision making, especially at the appellate level, is influenced as much by nonlegal—political or ideological—factors as by precedent and principles of legal reasoning.) Like CLS scholars, critical race theorists believed that political liberalism was incapable of adequately addressing fundamental problems of injustice in American society (notwithstanding legislation and court rulings advancing civil rights in the 1950s and ’60s), because its emphasis on the equitable treatment under the law of all races (“colour blindness”) rendered it capable of recognizing only the most overt and obvious racist practices, not those that were relatively indirect, subtle, or systemic. Liberalism was also faulted for mistakenly presupposing the apolitical nature of judicial decision making and for taking a self-consciously incremental or reformist approach that prolonged unjust social arrangements and afforded opportunities for retrenchment and backsliding through administrative delays and conservative legal challenges. Unlike most CLS scholars, however, critical race theorists did not wish to abandon the notions of law or legal rights altogether, because, in their experience, some laws and legal reforms had done much to help oppressed or exploited people.

Basic tenets of critical race theory

According to the legal scholars Richard Delgado (one of the founders of CRT) and Jean Stefancic there are several general propositions regarding race and racism that many critical race theorists would accept, despite the considerable variation of belief among members of the movement. These propositions constitute a set of “basic tenets” of CRT."

https://www.britannica.com/topic/critical-race-theory

Britannica versus primary sources? Are you kidding? The actual papers, books, and writing by those that invented CRT show it is Marxist in design and that it promotes racism by forcing people into groups of either oppressors or oppressed based on ethnicity and national origin.

[Matt Dillon]

Britannica versus primary sources? Are you kidding? The actual papers, books, and writing by those that invented CRT show it is Marxist in design and that it promotes racism by forcing people into groups of either oppressors or oppressed based on ethnicity and national origin.

It's a divisive movement.
I'd bet nobody in America in my lifetime has had slaves. At least not without it being all just sexual n shit.

[Old Trapper]

Britannica versus primary sources? Are you kidding? The actual papers, books, and writing by those that invented CRT show it is Marxist in design and that it promotes racism by forcing people into groups of either oppressors or oppressed based on ethnicity and national origin.

Bull shit. ALL you have are excerpts from articles, etc., that opinionated racists like you love to put forward. Like when you declared that Crenshaw refused to address the question in reference to Marxism. Why should he knowing that ignorant ass wipes like you would use anything he said as a basis for your bull shit, and lies? The Britannica article is quite clear on the relationship between Marxism, and CRT (CLS, an offshoot of Marxist-oriented critical theory), but fools like you refuse to grasp the concept. In fact, one could use your own irrational "logic" and say the United States was founded on Marxism since some of the policies of the Founders bear a touch of a relationship with the teachings of Marx.

So tell me, why is it so hard for fools like you to understand that when your kind makes it harder for minorities, especially Blacks, and the poor, to vote that you are codifying racism?

Why is it so hard for you to understand that when a school that is primarily Black, and poor, receives less funding then a school that is primarily White, you are codifying racism?

And why are your masters so opposed to studying the causes of, and the effects of, racism?

"From the colonial era on, the United States has had a rich array of self-contained utopian communities, walled off from the mainstream of life and dedicated to pursuing various notions of individual and collective perfection. Although economic factors often made such projects unsustainable in the long term and members tended to float away over time, some utopian and experimental communities left significant marks on American life. The impulse to gather together with groups of like-minded people in the hope of discovering better ways of living still exists today, embodied in a diverse array of groupings, including communes, eco-villages, survivalist camps, religious communities, and mystical retreats."

https://www.britannica.com/story/american-utopias

[T. A. Gardner]

Bull shit. ALL you have are excerpts from articles, etc., that opinionated racists like you love to put forward. Like when you declared that Crenshaw refused to address the question in reference to Marxism. Why should he knowing that ignorant ass wipes like you would use anything he said as a basis for your bull shit, and lies? The Britannica article is quite clear on the relationship between Marxism, and CRT (CLS, an offshoot of Marxist-oriented critical theory), but fools like you refuse to grasp the concept. In fact, one could use your own irrational "logic" and say the United States was founded on Marxism since some of the policies of the Founders bear a touch of a relationship with the teachings of Marx.

So tell me, why is it so hard for fools like you to understand that when your kind makes it harder for minorities, especially Blacks, and the poor, to vote that you are codifying racism?

Why is it so hard for you to understand that when a school that is primarily Black, and poor, receives less funding then a school that is primarily White, you are codifying racism?

And why are your masters so opposed to studying the causes of, and the effects of, racism?

"From the colonial era on, the United States has had a rich array of self-contained utopian communities, walled off from the mainstream of life and dedicated to pursuing various notions of individual and collective perfection. Although economic factors often made such projects unsustainable in the long term and members tended to float away over time, some utopian and experimental communities left significant marks on American life. The impulse to gather together with groups of like-minded people in the hope of discovering better ways of living still exists today, embodied in a diverse array of groupings, including communes, eco-villages, survivalist camps, religious communities, and mystical retreats."

https://www.britannica.com/story/american-utopias

OMFG what a racist rant that was to read. But I'm not budging. Let me take the Britannica article apart starting with it being totally unsourced. Note, I'm going to demolish it because I've been studying Critical **** whatever since about the year 2000.

According to the legal scholars Richard Delgado (one of the founders of CRT) and Jean Stefancic there are several general propositions regarding race and racism that many critical race theorists would accept, despite the considerable variation of belief among members of the movement.

Britannica

Do you know who Richard Delgado is? I do. His name comes up frequently in study of Critical Pedagogy and related radical Leftist theory. Delgado, and his often co-author wife, Jean Stefancic are Marxists. He has spent his whole life in academia.

Let's look at what he says about CRT:

Probably not every member would subscribe to every tenet set out in this book, but many would agree on the following propositions. First, that racism is ordinary, not aberrational—"normal science," the usual way society does business, the common, everyday experience of most people of color in this country. Second, most would agree that our system of white-over-color ascendancy serves important purposes, both psychic and material...

https://jordaninstituteforfamilies.o...ace_Theory.pdf

His second point makes an absurd assumption, that whites take a position of "ascendancy" over persons of color. In doing so, he smears whites as systemically racist. That is, the assumption he's making is whites are racist or all whites are racist.
This is necessary as I described, for CRT to put persons into categories of oppressor or oppressed.

Because racism advances the interests of both white elites (materially) and working-class people (psychically), large segments of society have little incentive to eradicate it.

ibid

In this sentence he links CRT and traditional Marxist didactic. Again, it is pigeon holing people into oppressors and oppressed.

Second, racism in the United States is normal, not aberrational: it is the ordinary experience of most people of colour. Although extreme racist attitudes and beliefs are less common among whites than they were before the mid-20th century, and explicitly racist laws and legal practices—epitomized by the Jim Crow laws that enforced racial segregation and denied basic civil rights to African Americans in the South—have been largely eliminated, most people of colour continue to be routinely discriminated against or otherwise unfairly treated in both public and private spheres, as demonstrated by numerous social indicators. African Americans and Hispanic Americans (Latinxs), for example, are on average more likely than similarly qualified white persons to be denied loans or jobs;

Britannica

Here, the author displays their bias using the term (Latinxs). There are also gross assumptions made without citation or facts. The first sentence makes an assumption based on nothing other than the author's own beliefs. Then comes the loaded words "Jim Crow" used flippantly without clear understanding what those laws entailed. It isn't as if much of the Western world at the time (1870's to about 1960's) didn't practice similar systems, because they did. Anyway, why used loaded words when "segregation" would suffice? That would be more neutral and far more academic for an encyclopedia entry.

Of course, this is the most damning to your argument. I highlighted the relevant part:

Critical race theory (CRT) was officially organized in 1989, at the first annual Workshop on Critical Race Theory, though its intellectual origins go back much farther, to the 1960s and ’70s. Its immediate precursor was the critical legal studies (CLS) movement, which dedicated itself to examining how the law and legal institutions serve the interests of the wealthy and powerful at the expense of the poor and marginalized. (CLS, an offshoot of Marxist-oriented critical theory,

Britannica

Even your own reference, Britannica says that CRT is based in Marxism as CRT comes from CLS / CLT).

CRT is a Marxist construct, made by Marxist academics and based in traditional Marxist class struggle. It just substitutes race and racism for economics.

[Guno צְבִי]

Pennsylvania school district reverses ban on books by authors of color after students fought back
By Mirna Alsharif and Liam Reilly, CNN

Updated 6:43 PM ET, Thu September 23, 2021

The majority of children are non white

this is from 2020: Children of color projected to be majority of U.S. youth this year

by the middle of 2020, nonwhites will account for the majority of the nation’s 74 million children.

the declining number of white children reflects the significant aging of the white population.

Whites in the U.S. have a median age of 43.6, much higher than those of all other racial or ethnic groups. Latinos, in particular, are much younger, with a median age of 29.5.

Slightly more than one-fifth of whites are age 65 and older, while elders account for only about one-tenth of nonwhites. Indeed, today in the U.S. there are more white elders than white children.

The older age of whites is mainly due to fewer white births than white deaths. Between July 2017 and July 2018, there were 0.88 white births in the U.S. for every 1 white death. In the case of Latinos, the ratio was 5 births for every 1 death.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/...outh-this-year

[Lionfish]

If idiot lefties would stop telling blacks they are less than and start treating everybody as equals, this would all go away.

[Old Trapper]

Even your own reference, Britannica says that CRT is based in Marxism as CRT comes from CLS / CLT).

CRT is a Marxist construct, made by Marxist academics and based in traditional Marxist class struggle. It just substitutes race and racism for economics.

When you decide to actually discuss this topic using real facts, not just the excerpts from some right wing fantasy world, please let me know. So far you have not used even one teaching from CRT to "prove" your point. All you have done is point your finger in the air, and let shit fly.

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/wh...attack/2021/05

[Nordberg]

CRT recognizes that racism has resulted in organizations and governments codifying racial practices. https://www.edweek.org/leadership/wh...attack/2021/05 We had busing to rectify separate but unequal school systems. We have tried to stop redlining, although insurance rates are much higher for blacks. The laws to stop blacks from voting have gone on for many decades. As the Repub states are showing, Jim Crow did not go away. It just changed into more subtle forms called repression. You can't tell American history without discussing these things. They went on and still do.
The video phones have shown how police treat minorities. We will not get better until we accept our past and decide to do better.

[T. A. Gardner]

When you decide to actually discuss this topic using real facts, not just the excerpts from some right wing fantasy world, please let me know. So far you have not used even one teaching from CRT to "prove" your point. All you have done is point your finger in the air, and let shit fly.

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/wh...attack/2021/05

So now you trot out an op ed by a guy with a BA and an MA in English Literature writing in EdWeek? How pathetic. The article is unsourced, and amounts to this guy's opinion. He does reference the thoroughly racist book by Ibram X. Kendi, How to be an Anti-racist.

https://booksvooks.com/nonscrolablep...m-x-kendi.html

It's interesting that Kendi in the introduction admits openly that he was a mediocre student in college and got into the schools he did purely on the basis of affirmative action but somehow those schools were racist...

I've more than proven my point and at every turn, demolished you and your sources. CRT is racist through and through. It's a Marxist construct, and it's literally crappola on a shit bun. It has no place in American society whatsoever.

[Old Trapper]

So now you trot out an op ed by a guy with a BA and an MA in English Literature writing in EdWeek? How pathetic. The article is unsourced, and amounts to this guy's opinion. He does reference the thoroughly racist book by Ibram X. Kendi, How to be an Anti-racist.

https://booksvooks.com/nonscrolablep...m-x-kendi.html

It's interesting that Kendi in the introduction admits openly that he was a mediocre student in college and got into the schools he did purely on the basis of affirmative action but somehow those schools were racist...

I've more than proven my point and at every turn, demolished you and your sources. CRT is racist through and through. It's a Marxist construct, and it's literally crappola on a shit bun. It has no place in American society whatsoever.

Facts Terrible Ass, facts, not just excerpts you approve of that were given to you by some anonymous source. What is interesting is that you cannot provide me with even one example of racist, or Marxist, teachings in CRT itself. And while you whine and cry about the opinions of others that is all you have had.

FACTS dumb ass, FACTS. Oh, and you might even try answering my questions for a change.

[T. A. Gardner]

Facts Terrible Ass, facts, not just excerpts you approve of that were given to you by some anonymous source. What is interesting is that you cannot provide me with even one example of racist, or Marxist, teachings in CRT itself. And while you whine and cry about the opinions of others that is all you have had.

FACTS dumb ass, FACTS. Oh, and you might even try answering my questions for a change.

Whelp... Seems I've managed to get a type 4 response from a Leftist this time. How rare. That is the incoherent psychobabble. It isn't enough that I pointed out his own sources say it's Marxist. It isn't sufficient to give quotes from known Marxists that write on CRT. It isn't enough to point out the poor sourcing of his choice of articles to cite... It's never enough to convince the delusional of something they can't seem to comprehend. So, I'll close with a musical interlude...