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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Many Founding Fathers were deists.
    ???....and bananas are yellow......so?....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    ???....and bananas are yellow......so?....
    So it's relevant to the topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    So it's relevant to the topic.
    not even remotely.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    not even remotely.....
    Deists believe once God set the world in motion he kind of disappears into the background. So deism is relevant to discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Deists believe once God set the world in motion he kind of disappears into the background. So deism is relevant to discussion.
    the question I asked and he quoted was why a creator and a being were mutually exclusive.......his response that there a handful of deists 250 years ago is meaningless.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    the question I asked and he quoted was why a creator and a being were mutually exclusive.......his response that there a handful of deists 250 years ago is meaningless.......
    I see. Fair enough.

    My distinction was about the property of being a creator. One can conceive God without being a creator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    From early Catholic theology like St Anselm, Augustine, Thomas.
    They privileged believing in God as the essential feature of theology and religion.
    Anyone not believing in their God was an atheist (not a term they used).
    They called us non-believers heathens. They did not use the word atheist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    They called us non-believers heathens. They did not use the word atheist.
    No, I meant conceptually. They just used the phrase "those who deny the existence of God."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    No, I meant conceptually. They just used the phrase "those who deny the existence of God."
    Oh, okay. Then it makes more sense. Nevertheless, no atheist can be a polytheist or any other sort of the-ist. "Infidel" or "heathen" is more appropriate to what early Xtians and Muslims called everyone else not chosen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Oh, okay. Then it makes more sense. Nevertheless, no atheist can be a polytheist or any other sort of the-ist. "Infidel" or "heathen" is more appropriate to what early Xtians and Muslims called everyone else not chosen.
    In Greek tragedies there are Gods but no one God. It's 'atheistic' about monotheism. Gods in Homer did not have absolute power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Yet you having nothing to say about it. No refutation.
    Yet the one person who does here you consider a troll. Typical. No point in even attempting a half way intelligent discussion with you about anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    Yet the one person who does here you consider a troll. Typical. No point in even attempting a half way intelligent discussion with you about anything.
    Lots of intelligent discussions going on. You clearly ignore them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Lots of intelligent discussions going on. You clearly ignore them.
    You're a troll.
    "Where the people fear the govt. you have tyranny. Where the govt. fears the people you have liberty."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I see. Fair enough.

    My distinction was about the property of being a creator. One can conceive God without being a creator.
    /shrugs.....I expect one could conceive a god that looks like a giant dildo and is as stupid as reagansghost.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    No, I meant conceptually. They just used the phrase "those who deny the existence of God."
    to be fair, that included the worshippers of Baal and other gods as well.....
    Isaiah 6:5
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